Talk:Hull City A.F.C.

Adam Pearson
I know this isn't really to do with this page, but it is fairly relevant, so bear with me! Any ideas why the Adam Pearson article was deleted yesterday? Managed to find the deletion log, though there isn't any (legit) reason given. Thanks, TomiG 18:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll pop by and leave a message on the home page of the person who deleted it MikesPlant 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * tis back now, it took him three whole minutes - which aint bad. MikesPlant 20:07, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I would like some info on football manager 2008 hull team and possibly best tactics and good cheap players.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.189.237 (talk) 16:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

2006 - referencing
The current article states: "Chairman Adam Pearson has stated his ambition to take Hull into the top flight for the first time in their history - and he believes Phil Parkinson is the manager to do it." Firstly, where's the reference point for the quote? Secondly, with Hull sat at the bottom of the Championship, it would be good to reference this now - Rgds, - Trident13 19:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

He's stated this numerous times - I'll add a reference if I can find one. Difficult with radio interviews though! Beve 11:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Boaz Myhill's nationality
Born in the USA to English parents, he grew up in England. So what nationality is he and which flag should go against his name? I think English, as I think he would only play for England - I know he's already turned down the opportunity to play for Wales. Thoughts? Beve 11:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * English MikesPlant 17:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

he is english as he has played for England under 20's even though he was born in America to an American father and english mother81.178.229.100 12:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Notable former players
I trimmed this list down a bit, for the following reasons:
 * I think it should be by nature be quite a brief list - the 'cream'.
 * I didn't feel that certain players were hugely notable - either for Hull City or in their own right. My feeling is that the list should comprise players who either are considered 'City legends' or who achieved at the highest level, before or after their City career.
 * If the player's Wikipedia entry was only a stub.

Apologies to the editor who put so much work into this. It's always going to be a subjective issue as to who is 'notable' and who isn't. I won't get into any edit wars on this; hopefully any disagreements can be sorted out on the talk page by getting a consensus view. There are also quite a few City Legends who don't yet have a Wikipedia entry - for example Billy Bly, Ken Wagstaff, Chris Chilton and Tony Norman. Beve 10:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * A lot of the players I added (like Clint Marcelle for example) were added because they have appeared Internationally for their country, that in itself makes a player notable.


 * Others such as Peter Barnes (footballer) has won PFA Young Player of the Year (as did Steve Moran) in his history as well as playing for Manchester United. David Brown (footballer) player over a 100 games for Hull City. John Downie is a notable player because he made over 100 appearences for Manchester United. Sam Weaver has been capped by the England national side...


 * These things assert the players notability. Of course they may not have been as great at City as elsewhere, but for extample Thierry Henry is mentioned as a notable former player at Juventus, as is David Beckham at Preston North End.


 * I'd have no problem if the people who were legends at City (who you mentioned) were added alongside these too. - Deathrocker 16:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Trivia
Hull is the largest city in Europe never to have had a club play in the top division of its national league.

What about Bonn / Bonner SC? Xmth 13:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Apparently, there were 16 parallel divisions during the Third Reich and Bonn had two clubs in 'their' regional divison. Xmth 13:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Here's an article that discusses the issue . Beve (talk) 20:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Now it's 'Hull WAS the largest..." lol...but they'll be going straight back down! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.6.146 (talk) 21:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Needless to say, that obsolete fact was removed. Digifiend (talk) 13:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

This article http://www.hullcityonline.com/news/loadroll.asp?cid=EDZ1&id=392608 lays this rumour to rest. Hull never even came close to being the biggest city in Europe without a top flight football team. This article cites, for example, Ufa in Russia which has over a million people, plus another example in Wiesbaden in Germany. Mrobertsbcn (talk) 13:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Attendance
Is the attendance of 86,703 at Wembly the largest crowd that Hull City have ever played in front of? I think that it may be. LewisR (talk) 23:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Must be - it was the first time they'd ever played there, and Wembley has the largest capacity of any football ground in Britain! Digifiend (talk) 13:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

The thing is that Wembley isnt Hull's home ground 88.104.203.61 (talk) 15:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Featured Picture
Please visit Featured_picture_candidates/KC_Stadium_at_night if you are interested in having the picture of the KC Stadium raised to the status of featured picture or if you think that it definitely shouldn't be featured. Thanks, ...adam...  ( talk •  contributions ) 19:27, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

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 * Sorted. →Ollie (talk • contribs) 17:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Discussion
Why does the discussion content keep getting removed? This is accurate information, and not vandalism, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghurkin (talk • contribs) 15:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It's getting deleted because the encyclopaedia requires that you cite reliable sources and not engage in original research.  Doonhamer  |  Banter  15:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Ghurkin 15:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC) There is original content in that.. The fact that Jay Jay Okocha posts on the board under the pseudonym Jonny_Boon

GA passed
I have passed the article, as I think it meets all the criteria, and is of a comparable standard to other sports team GAs. However, here are some ideas to improve the article further: I spy two red links. Auto-forward to Hull City A.F.C. Reserves and Academy? Digifiend (talk) 13:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Running through the article with a fine-toothed comb to improve the prose quality. Some useful advice for doing this is given at User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.
 * Remove extra links for articles which are linked multiple times e.g. Manchester United is linked four times. Similarly, ensure all football club links are piped to remove the F.C. or A.F.C. from view.✅
 * While not directly concerning this article, Hull City A.F.C. Reserves and Hull City A.F.C. Juniors could be merged; both articles are stubs and there is some repetition.✅
 * The picture of Boothferry Park could be better (assuming the ground is still standing) - trees and bushes make up more of the image than the stadium.✅
 * The record league finish could be mentioned at the relevant point in the history section. Oldelpaso 17:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Player Notability
I've removed deletion notices on a couple more current player's pages. The reason for deletion listed was that the player is not competing professionally at a top level. Hull will be playing in the Premier League this season, I don't know how much more top level you can get. Shuttered (talk) 19:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Billy Russell
Billy Russell is Scottish and is shown under past managers as English.

Could someone please change this as I am unable to as I have just registered to Wikipedia. (Benjybobs (talk) 11:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC))


 * Changed as requested Keith D (talk) 12:18, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

mishtake shurely?
"The club's greatest achievement in cup competitions was in 1930, when they reached the FA Cup semi-final.[7] The cup run saw Hull knocking out Leeds United and eventual Champions of the Second and Third Division; Blackpool and Plymouth Argyle respectively"

They never played Leeds in that cup run: FAC 3	Plymouth Argyle	 A	4-3, FAC 4	Blackpool	 H	3-1, FAC 5	Manchester City	 A	2-1, FAC 6	Newcastle United A	1-1, FAC 6R	Newcastle United H	1-0, FAC SF	Arsenal	         N	2-2, FAC SFR	Arsenal	         N	0-1.

Rabid robo (talk) 14:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you provide reference for that and for who Leeds played? Keith D (talk) 18:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

from http://www.thefa.com/templates/generic/Common/FACompetitionsHistory.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID=%7bB32A2F3A-361E-4746-893C-DB8CD833C471%7d&NRORIGINALURL=%2fTheFACup%2fTheFACup%2fArchive%2f&NRCACHEHINT=Guest

3rd round Leeds United 8 -  1 Crystal Palace; 4th round West Ham United 4  -  1 Leeds United. Rabid robo (talk) 09:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the information - I have corrected the article. Keith D (talk) 11:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Kit colour
The kit looks a bit off-colour. --➨ Candlewicke :) Sign/Talk 21:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you mean the amber of the home kit? I made it a bit more vivid; it seems a better match to the colour in the badge now. Doonhamer (talk) 22:15, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Vandalising
I deleted a line above the history section which was writing: "Oliver Ashley and his Grandpa Support Hull City".I consider that as vandalizing and measures should be taken to prevent this from happening again in this article. Gunner0095 (talk) 19:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Campbell transfer
Please don't edit this page until both clubs confirm the signing. Having an offer accepted does not confirm a transfer by any stretch.Twsf (talk) 00:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Highest Transfer Fee Recieved
Still listed as Leon Cort even though Sam Ricketts' transfer to Bolton, although undisclosed, surpassed this. Has been reported as being between £2 and £2.5 Million —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.130.111 (talk) 23:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed - thanks.  BEVE  ( talk ) 11:50, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

somebody help me i am a good footballer my dream is to fo a good team like hull city any one to help just massaga me on omoboyetobi@yahoo.com i dont want my dream to diea with me  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.194.147.131 (talk) 13:27, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Wat.

Dowie
Iain Dowie isn't the club's manager - the manager is stil Phil Brown. Brown is on gardening leave. Dowie is a "temporary football management consultant". See http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/WhosWho/0,,10338,00.html and http://www.hullcityafc.net/page/NewsDetail/0,,10338~1994482,00.html which confirms Brown has been relieved of his duties and placed on gardening leave - but not sacked (first link - the club's Who's Who - still lists him as manager) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.47.102 (talk) 18:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Recent success section and date to change league
We should probably rename the Recent Success section in light of Hull's relegation from the Premier League. Or at least put in another paragraph dealing with the monetary issues, relegation and allegations of frivolous spending at the club. Seems misleading to effectively end the history of a club going into administration in a paragraph referencing success. Also, when should we change the box info showing it as a Championship club? — [ Unsigned comment added by 194.69.198.244 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC).]
 * The changes to club infoboxes should wait until the official end of the season which is 31 July 30 June. We get the same problem each year and lots of reverting so we have agreed for end of the official season date as the date for articles to be changed to the new divisions. Keith D (talk) 12:25, 26 April 2010
 * Hi Keith, cheers for setting me straight on the Championship rating thing. I still think the recent success section should be updated though. The financial troubles of the club are well-document at this stage. Perhaps a section called "Recent Decline"? Or "Administration Procedures"? Let me know what you think and I'll draft up a paragraph or two with all the necessary citations.
 * —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.69.198.242 (talk • contribs) 12:50, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I would think that there should be a paragraph about the last 2 seasons in the premier division and the struggle near the foot of the table, leading to the Phil Brown/Iain Dowie situation and relegation (even though not confirmed yet I cannot see it not happening as they need 2 wins and a shed full of goals to stop it). The financial troubles with the previous chairman could also be brought up here. Not sure what would be best to call it though, others may have a thought if you put something in the article. The newer paragraph at the bottom of the present "Recent success" section would probably be best in the newly headed section. Keith D (talk) 16:24, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've renamed the "Recent success" section to "The 21st century: promotion, top flight football, and beyond". Perhaps a bit wordy/corny, but addresses the issue for now. I'll give some thought to a new section as Keith suggests too. Northumbrian (talk) 17:51, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Experimenting with subsections now. Northumbrian (talk) 18:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Keith D and I have been discussing the league change question on his talk page, and we thought it might be a good idea to recommend the date to change the league in which a promoted or relegated English club plays in on 1 July, when the official new season starts, in the talk page on the football club infobox template. Northumbrian (talk) 22:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Managerial status, May 2010
It looks like there's some question about the actual status of Phil Brown and Iain Dowie now that league play has ended. The club's official website indicates that Brown is still the manager and that Dowie is still the temporary football management consultant. Pippin0490 has updated the article to reflect the information given in this Hull and East Riding Daily Mail piece, that calls Brown the "former boss" (and thus implying that the manager position is indeed vacant) and that Dowie's position ended yesterday with the last game of the season.

Personally, I feel the official website to be the more reliable source, though admittedly often slow to update, and that we can't go wrong using its version, but am certainly happy to discuss the matter and see what other regular contributors think. Northumbrian (talk) 23:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I would probably go with the Hull City web site as Brown is still on gardening leave and as far as I know Dowie has a contract until next weekend. There are rumours that they will go without a manager for 2 months and Dowie has offered to stay unpaid for 2 months if he gets the job for next season. Keith D (talk) 23:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Latest from the Hull Daily Mail here & here. Keith D (talk) 08:34, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Seems the situation is still very fluid. The official website also has the changes for Pearson and Bartlett now, but still lists Dowie and Brown as managing consultant and manager.
 * I still prefer the version as listed on the OWS but it seems the situation can change on a moment's notice. Northumbrian (talk) 12:51, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Section for former players?
It looks like there's now a section for former players. That seems a bit open-ended without any sort of criteria for inclusion. The current style page doesn't have a provision for former players, though there's a link there to this (somewhat dated) template that includes a section for noted players (again, no criteria).

Any thoughts? Northumbrian (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I see Keith's removed the section. I'm fine with that, was wondering though whether it might be worth pursuing some sort of noted players section if criteria can be established? Northumbrian (talk) 18:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The section only had one name in it and it was not formatted correctly. It may be best to have a separate article on notable former players along the lines of List of York City F.C. players, which is a featured list, and then just have a section header with main template pointing to it. Appears that most clubs have a list like this see Category:Lists of association football players by club. Keith D (talk) 19:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Current Staff
I belive that the page would look more professional with the table, which is why I was wondering if you would be happy to revert back to the table, so long as the references which you mentioned were included in the new table. Dowietiger (talk) 20:15, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I like the look of the table too. Like I mention on your talk page, the only concern I see there is verifying the national flag icon correct for some persons in the list. As there likely isn't as much interest or need to know the nationality for other staff members as there is for players and managers, perhaps you could try the table format but leave out the national flag icons, while also leaving the current references in place. Northumbrian (talk) 20:34, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I will try the table without the national flags and see if it looks any goodDowietiger (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Definitely looks better than the bulleted list and is consistent with the other sections now, cheers for that. I'd just suggest again working on getting in the habit of using the edit summary when saving an edit. Northumbrian (talk) 17:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the edit summary, the reason I did'nt fill it in is that I am not totally sure what I should writeDowietiger (talk) 20:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * In this case, something like Moving current staff from bullet list format to table format for consistency would have been okay, or something else brief and accurate. You can look at the article's edit history to see how edit summaries show up there and get some ideas on how to write them (like Beve's recent edit to correct spelling, his edit summary just said spellcheck). Edit summaries also appear on people's watchlists, and a lot of other interested editors have this article on their watchlist (like I do), so they can see when people are editing it. Very often, vandals don't leave edit summaries, so someone making a lot of edits to an article without explanatory edit summaries on the article history or someone's watchlist might be a sign of possible vandalism. Anyway, just another reason for regular editors to make use of them. Thanks again. Northumbrian (talk) 21:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I was just looking at the resent changes to the staff list, and I noticed that Steve Parkin is no longer on the list, despite the fact he still works for the club, is there a reason for thisDowietiger (talk) 15:20, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Because the primary source given for that section is the Official Website "Who's Who" list. Steve Parkin is not listed there, so he is not listed in the section. That reason appears in the page's edit history under in the edit summaries. I'd advise checking the page's edit history to see the reasons given for specific edits in the edit summaries. Northumbrian (talk) 15:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I notice that there has been some new names added to the current staff table, and I was just wondering whether they are really nesessary, I think we should just have the main staff members, and not people like the youth development administrator.Dowietiger (talk) 11:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Current Players and Staff sections in the article
With N. Pearson and his staff coming in and the summer transfer activity starting among the players, these sections in the article are going to need updating fairly often.

The primary source for both sections listed in the references is the club's official website (OWS):


 * the Profiles page for the players
 * Who's Who at the KC for the staff

A few staff members not listed on the OWS have their own references.

As has been pointed out, and as I acknowledge, the OWS isn't always updated in a timely manner, and can be out-of-date. For instance, as Beve points out on my talk page, Boateng and JVoH are indeed no longer with the club, but as of this moment, they are still listed on the OWS Profiles page.

Personally, I don't find the delays in the OWS being updated to be troublesome; to me, this falls within the very first sentence of Wikipedia's Verifiability policy, and it's usually no longer than a day or two. However, if other editors want to updated the players list using secondary sources for player transfers, please feel free (for instance, Sky Sports' player list for the club is already up-to-date with regard to JVoH (but not Boateng)). Other editors' thoughts are welcome. Northumbrian (talk) 18:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Updating the kits for 2010-2011?
Anybody with any experience updating the kit templates feel like taking a stab at it now that both home and away are revealed? I'd do it but I don't even know where to start. If someone can point to the guidance on it, I'd be willing to have a go though. Northumbrian (talk) 13:37, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe this is sorted now. Northumbrian (talk) 18:24, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

New Former Players List
Hi there, just looked at the new former players list and I like the fact that the page now has one, but I think we should place it on a separate page with a link to it underneath the current squad table, as I feel the new list is rather long and now adds a lot of extra lenght to the main page.Dowietiger (talk) 18:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point. I think that's a great idea; this article might serve as a model. The list needs sourcing, however. I contacted the editor who added the list and requested he add his reference. He did so, but it looks like he used Wikipedia as his source, which isn't considered reliable, and so Keith D reverted them.
 * What we might consider doing is move the list to a subpage of this talk page, and then interested editors work on finding reliable sources. Once that's done, we could then move it to its own article. How does that sound? Northumbrian (talk) 19:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of a separate article as it is how other clubs handle this and a number of lists are now featured. Keith D (talk) 21:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess the main sources will be -
 * Keith D (talk) 21:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keith D (talk) 21:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keith D (talk) 21:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi again, I agree with your idea above as I have looked at some of the premier league clubs pages, and how they handle their notable players section, and all of them have a separate subpage below the current squad article.Dowietiger (talk) 21:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I see Keith's invited the list creator to this discussion on his talk page; hopefully he'll turn up and chime in. Thanks for tracking down the references Keith; do you or anyone else have access to them?
 * Barring any objections, I can move the list to a subpage this weekend and start working on formatting it as a standalone article along the lines of the York City article, unless someone else wants to get going on it before then (am traveling for work this week and can't do much heavy-duty editing until after I get home tomorrow). Northumbrian (talk) 17:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, sorry about not commenting earlier I've been busy. I think it would be fine to move it to a new article, and I also agree with Northumbrian's suggestion about a subpage. Thanks for the sources, Keith, I couldn't find anywhere on the internet with the appearance records, so I wonder where the Wikipedia articles that I did get the info from are sourced from? Would be happy to help with formatting it as a standalone article aswell. WilliamF1two (talk) 18:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess Mattythewhite has the first as they used it heavily in revamping the List of Hull City A.F.C. seasons article and getting it to FL, I have the second.
 * The sub-page is probably a good idea until it is ready for release so that it does not get deleted while work is in progress. May be worth looking through the other FL lists of this type to see if there are any other good ideas that we can incorporate into the article. Keith D (talk) 19:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers everyone, home now so can start on this over the weekend. Great idea to start this list William and another one to move it to its own article DT. Cheers. Northumbrian (talk) 22:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Here's the new talk page subpage; All I did was move the existing list there, current format and all. Here's also the category for existing football club player lists; I sampled a few English clubs lists and they mostly seem to follow a basic table format. The York City list might be a good format to look at for ideas, along with any other Featured Article lists as Keith suggests.

Seems now to be a matter of taking the raw data William supplied and formatting and referencing it. I think we can all help with the formatting, though it might fall to Keith (and Mattie, if he's interested) to do much of the sourcing. Northumbrian (talk) 14:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Northumbrian. For a start, if we are going to do this like the York City list, then the first thing we should do is delete the first section (Players with international caps), as this doesn't come into the list. WilliamF1two (talk) 17:29, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Liam Cooper
Does anyone know if Liam Cooper is back from loan as cannot locate any news on this. Carlisle still appear to include him in their squad though indicate the loan was until 9 February. Keith D (talk) 18:20, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Player of the Season
I've just updated the relevant pages with Anthony Gerrard having been named City's POTY. Is there any agreement on the photo used. I realise Turner won the award twice, but so did Elliot, and we're not showing his photo.

Should we add a picture of Elliot, or replace Turner with Gerrard? Seems a little strange to keep a picture up of a player who left us nearly two years ago. Ph 1980 (talk) 20:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Away kit
Anyone a dab hand with the kit boxes? Here is the new away kit for 2010–11 season. Keith D (talk) 16:29, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Squad table format
A discussion is being held here on the possibility of rolling out a new squad template. The new template, named football squad player2, differs from the standard squad layout in several ways:
 * It features a sort function
 * Comes in a single column format that can be understood by screen readers.
 * Single column format ensures that low resolution browsers, including mobile devices, do not get part or all of the second column cut off.
 * Single column format ensures less clutter, particularly at lower resolutions, for wide sections such as the Arsenal loan section.
 * It gives nationality its own column; at present flags are featured in a blank, untitled column
 * It complies with Wikipedia's guidance on flag usage.
 * It leaves enough space to add images of current players, an example of which can be seen at Watford F.C.

It is proposed that the new template be added to some of Wikipedia's most high-profile club articles, which might include. To give your thoughts, please read and contribute to the discussion at WikiProject Football.

Regards, Edinburgh   Wanderer  19:40, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The compressed format with multi columns is far better than having the squad in a single column. We have the references in multi-columns so that should not be a problem that people seem to think it is. Keith D (talk) 21:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Home kit
Anyone a dab hand with the kit boxes? Here is the new home kit for the 2012–13 season. Keith D (talk) 12:34, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Away kit
New 2012–13 away kit is available here if anyone can update the kit box appropriatly. Keith D (talk) 10:38, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Third Kit
The sky blue away kit from last season is this season's third kit, why is it not included in the article? Mongobongohongo (talk) 00:43, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Player milestones?
I'm not certain if this has been raised before, I had a quick read through this talk page and saw some talk of it so I do apologise if I am just repeating old discussions.

I was wondering if this page could benefit from a "player milestone" section, similar to what is on the, very impressive, AFC Wimbledon page from here to here. Though for this page one could possibly change the "over 100 appearances" to a higher number considering the higher number of years Hull City has been around.

Pippin0490 (talk) 10:00, 28 March 2013 (UTC)


 * There was a section for former players that was removed back in 2010 in order to get the article up to GA status, there is an earlier section above on this. The idea was to create an article on the players similar to the List of York City F.C. players but this did not get very far but could be resurrected. It was started at Talk:Hull City A.F.C./List of Hull City A.F.C. players with the intention of moving to article space once suitable. The user who started it does not appear to be around much. Keith D (talk) 11:08, 28 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah yes, I see. I think this would be a good idea, I'll add it to my "to do list" though I doubt I'll have enough time to do it for a while yet. Hopefully once the page gets started more people will join in.

Pippin0490 (talk) 11:30, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Club honour - minor honours,
Again, I am taking inspiration from the AFC Wimbledon wiki page. But could a list of minor honours be added to the list of club honours? Such as here.

I am aware of a fair few minor honours Hull City have won over the years, but I have far, far from the full list. If a full list can be found (I'm sure I've seen at least one somewhere on the internet) would it be worth including? Just a suggestion.

Pippin0490 (talk) 10:04, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Club history - Hull Comets.
I recall reading that prior to Hull City AFC forming as a professional team in 1904, that the previous amateur team was established under the name 'Hull Comets' and that this club became Hull City. On some other teams wiki pages it will say:

Founded: 1892 as "previous name" Such as Bolton Wanderers F.C.

or

Founded: 1892 (originally as "previous name" in 1881)

Problem is that I have been unable to find any information about the Hull Comets other than that they became Hull City in 1904 (http://thebeautifulhistory.wordpress.com/clubs/hull-city/) "Hull City started out in life as Hull Comets and evolved into Hull City, when they turned professional in 1904". So the only way to possibly include this is to just mention it at the beginning of the 'Club History' section (like the article) and/or add - Founded: 1904 (previously/formerly/originally Hull Comets*)


 * I still think a date here would look better, for example: Founded 1904 (formerly/originally Hull Comets 1884)

Again, just a suggestion and at very least could be added to the start of 'club history', for example:

Hull City Association Football Club was founded in June 1904. For some years previously, attempts had been made to found a professional football club, but this proved difficult because the city was then dominated by rugby league teams such as Hull FC and Hull Kingston Rovers. Only an amateur team known as Hull Comets (which became Hull City in 1904 when they turned professional) could be established.

Pippin0490 (talk) 10:18, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

According to The Rough Guide to English Football (Dan Goldstein, 2000): 'starting out in life as Hull Comets and evolving into Hull Association FC, the team assumed the name of a defunct amateur side, Hull City, when they turned professional in 1904, and began playing on Hull FC's ground.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.227.166 (talk) 12:20, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Name change
A discussion has been started at Hull City Tigers on this. Keith D (talk) 11:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * And it has been done. Mr. Mario (talk) 01:57, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 August 2013
Hull City page not been updated properly but protected by pedantic people - why? Huddlestone is the new record signing and people not allocated squad numbers still on there. Sort it out or let others do so.

5.198.4.75 (talk) 16:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The Huddleston fee is only reportedly as it is officially undisclosed so cannot be placed as the highest fee paid. The unnumbered players are still with the club and so should appear on the list. Keith D (talk) 21:51, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Dougie Wilson and Joe Cracknell are not in the Hull City 1st team squad. They don't have a squad number - nor will they get one this year. Why then do you keep insisting they are listed? Why not list every single player in the youth team? Why not list every single person in the world? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.253.2 (talk) 12:47, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

@83.100.253.2; Dougie Wilson and Joe Cracknell are currently in the Hull City squad. They currently play in the reserve team but they haven't been given a kit number yet or maybe not this year like you said, but it doesn't mean that they are not in the squad altogether. Calum Jahraldo-Martin, Aaron McLean & Cameron Stewart (who is out on loan right now) almost didn't receive a kit number due to playing in the reserve team with Joe Cracknell & Dougie Wilson. They was lucky to get one this year by getting a chance to play in the League Cup against Leyton Orient. But Joe Cracknell & Dougie Wilson were the only players who didn't play in the league cup. So at this moment in time, they still don't have a kit number unless they get a chance in the league cup or other competitions this year. The only problem is that we need a page for Hull City's Youth Team so that can not confuse the squad altogether. HullCityTiger33 (talk) 18:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi. There is a problem here, because the source that the article is using does not list either Cracknell or Wilson. Nor does Transfermarkt.co.uk (see here). This transfermarkt page identifies Cracknell as in Hull U19, not the main team. (Searching for Wilson there didn't help, as there's another Dougie Wilson). The best I could come up with was this listing at Sky Sports, where both are named but unnumbered. This at soccerbase lists Wilson's acquisition by Hull and brief loan to Grimsby, but does not resolve the question of inclusion in the squad. So this is looking a bit like original research, I'm afraid, as the sources used do not bear out the statement. Could you review please? --Stfg (talk) 18:46, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Further note: I've asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football for another opinion on this as I'm uneasy about including players who are not named in the sources. --Stfg (talk) 21:30, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * No advice has been given there, so I'm going to have to take a view. The Verifiability policy states: "Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." The fact that the club's own web site (our main source) does not list these two players in the squad seems conclusive to me. @HullCityTiger33, we should distiguish between being in the squad and merely being on the payroll. You say they currently play in the reserve team. That may be different from being in the squad. I think we have to remove them from the list, and I will do that now. --Stfg (talk) 12:26, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 26 September 2013
Cracknell and Wilson are not in the squad. They should not be on the page.

83.100.253.2 (talk) 14:48, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done:. I am closing this one as not done, but will in a moment comment on the previous one so as to keep the discussion in one place. --Stfg (talk) 18:33, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done. Done now, per Verifiability. Please see the previous section for the reasoning. --Stfg (talk) 12:29, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Reducing long sections
First off, it seems like we have enough material to breakout a separate article for Renaming of Hull City AFC or something like that. Right now, it's one big section, giving it undue weight and overemphasis on recent news.

Second, why do we have a huge history section when we already have a separate history article? Is it possible to condense it? Mosmof (talk) 13:31, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I second the renaming having a separate article. Be bold on the history and condense it. &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 15:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * This was tried in March when the page Renaming of Hull City A.F.C. was created but people felt that it was not notable enough for a separate article so was deleted and the material restored here. Keith D (talk) 20:23, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Hull Tigers Ltd.
In the introduction, it says that the club requested a change in name to Hull Tigers Ltd.

Surely this is inaccurate. I have no data to hand, but to my understanding, the club's holding company name has been changed to Hull Tigers - that is a business situation away from the team. The request to the FA was to change the playing name to Hull Tigers. The Ltd is a business suffix, and would not have been part of the club's request.

Surely this section should simply read Hull Tigers, not Hull Tigers Ltd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ph 1980 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Kits
Can anyone update the home kit for the new season - see for details? Keith D (talk) 17:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

jahraldo-martin
not in the squad, so why are pedantic people putting him in there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 15:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Still waiting for answers re this... Still waiting for answers re this... Still waiting.... Still waiting for answers from those who cannot face the truth... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 10:07, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

still waiting for answers re caluam jahraldo-martin, are no answers forthcoming as they know I am right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 09:56, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

still waiting for answers re jahraldo-martin...ignoring me will not resolve this by the way — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 09:53, 23 October 2014 (UTC) Still waiting still waiting still waiting... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 13:04, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

still waiting for reasons why jahraldo-martin is in the squad list when the official club page says he isn't. Asked re this numerous times, but the self-appointed experts on here fail to provide answers... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 08:22, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

still waiting re jahraldo-martin... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 09:00, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Can someone update the page???????????????????????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 11:21, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


 * The fact he is on loan at another club from Hull City should be enough evidence that he IS with the club. You have been linked to the BBC website for proof, which you claimed isn't good enough before ignoring it, it was then explained to you that your own personal opinion of the BBC is irrelevent, which you also ignore. You have also had it explained why he is listed on the main page and not just the development squad, which you stated that, somehow, his nationality not being "good enough" in your opinion means he shouldn't be listed and then you ignore. Further proof can be found on the Hull City Official Site, the only site you have given your stamp of approval to, if you look up reserves/development squad match reports that clearly show that he is part of the squad. This matter has been discussed and fully explained to you countless times and you continue to ignore this, edit war, make up nonsense about being bullied, harrased etc and generally cause a nuisance. This is why almost nobody will reply to you, simply it is a waste of time as it is like talking to a brick wall.Pawac (talk) 11:45, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

ben arfa gone - still listed. no one taking responsibility for this page anymore... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 21:32, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Amber
In the intro, it states Roary as the mascot. Shouldn't Amber be added alongside him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hullcity6678 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I have added - though could do with a source for mascots, apart from pictures. Keith D (talk) 01:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Home kit
The new home kit for the 2015–16 season is here if anyone can update the kit appropriately. Keith D (talk) 18:20, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Matty Dixon is not a forward. Conor Townsend is not 5ft 6in tall. Both errors listed on the page as it stands. A consequence of the page being the plaything of a selected elite? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.172.38 (talk) 14:54, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Maloney is number 15 - yet not updated, is anyone bothering with this page any more? It is an absolute disgrace that it has become the domain of a select few who can't be bothered to update things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.172.38 (talk) 15:38, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Page not been updated, why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.172.38 (talk) 10:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Hull City page being left abandoned...what an absolute disgrace — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.172.38 (talk) 17:00, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Conor Townsend left the club...no one updating this page. Shameful...

Matty Dixon left the club. Yet the elite who use this page as their own plaything can't be bothered to update it whilst not allowing those who can be bothered to participate. The on going disgrace that is this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.11.170 (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Player Addition
Josh Tymon needs adding to the first team. He has trained with them for the best part of January and has made his debut playing 80 minutes in the FA Cup he is number 33 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.246.123.211 (talk) 18:16, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2016
Place brackets on IPA, so that it doesn't come up on Google searches.

92.10.232.211 (talk) 22:31, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅Thanks for note. I have added brackets as requested. Keith D (talk) 23:53, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 18:26, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

2016–17 kits
Is there anyone who can update the kits for the new season?
 * Home kit details
 * Away kit details

Thanks. Keith D (talk) 18:15, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Dates
I can't edit it as it's semi protected but the dates on the manager section say 1016 instead of 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AliJDB (talk • contribs) 01:29, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for spotting the error, I have corrected it. Keith D (talk) 01:35, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Mike Phelan
Can I suggest that Mike Phelan's caretaker spell be merged with his actual managerial period at the club. Neither Billy Russell nor Wilf McGuinness, the other two people marked as a caretaker manager subsequently went on to be a full-time manager of the club. Both Phil Brown (December 2006) and Nick Barmby (November-December 2012) had caretaker spells before finally being appointed which are now counted as part of their managerial period. I know Phelan had an epic caretaker spell, but I think it is more appropriate for this page to look at Phelan's era as a whole. Ph 1980 (talk) 00:51, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * If no one has any complaints I'm going to merge the two entries tomorrow. Ph 1980 (talk) 22:21, 13 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Personally I would keep them separate, but if you do then you should make some notes that part of this was as caretaker or else it is giving false information. Keith D (talk) 22:43, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

It's a shame the self-appointed elite - none of whom are Hull City fans - who have commandeered this page for themselves then subsequently can't be bothered to update things. Rodgers, Ter Horst and now McGregor- all on loan elsewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.236.70 (talk) 19:03, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Lack of editing from self-appointed non Hull City fans who have co-opted this page for themselves
It's a shame the self-appointed elite - none of whom are Hull City fans - who have commandeered this page for themselves then subsequently can't be bothered to update things. Rodgers, Ter Horst and now McGregor- all on loan elsewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.236.70 (talk) 22:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Harvey Rodgers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38485637

Been gone 17 days if the self-appointed non-Hull City fans can be bothered to update the page...

page not being updated - why?
Why is the page not being updated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.236.70 (talk) 12:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Hull City logo issue on Google caused by this.
When you go on google and search up hull city. As their logo it shows the old logo from 2012. This misleads people who search up Hull city and think that old logo is our actually logo. So I tried to change this, by deleting the incorrect image and replacing it. But one editor says this is not allowed. Please stop this, I am trying to put the correct Hull City logo,up on google which is caused by this. Brandon39524 (talk) 23:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Please do not delate this picture it is for certain reasons, so it is the coorect logo on google for Hull City.
Please don't Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandon39524 (talk • contribs) 00:09, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

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Current Squad: the website from the Hull City team page now says that Stephen Kingsley has taken the number 28 shirt which is currently not updated in that section. 86.155.225.3 (talk) 14:42, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2018
Hull City were defeated 1-7 by Tottenham Hotspur in the Premier League on 21 May 2017, so the claim in the Records and Statistics section that their heaviest top-flight defeat was a 6-1 loss to Liverpool in 26 September 2009 is now inaccurate. Please change the record from the 6-1 loss to Liverpool to the 1-7 loss to Tottenham. Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39912022 Waikintsui (talk) 13:44, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done, thank you. Gulumeemee (talk) 03:35, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

2019 Crest
Is there anyway that the new crest can be uploaded onto wikipedia now, since the club have now adopted it on their website and on social media? Ph 1980 (talk) 19:38, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Record transfer - update
Jarrod Bowen is the new club record transfer fee received for a leaving player (£18M + up to £7M in add-ons) from West Ham United (31.01.2020) - replacing Shane Long. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.101.122 (talk) 22:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Abel Hernandez is listed as the club's record signing; Ryan Mason is the club's record signing, joining from Tottenham Hotspur for £13m in August 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.23.42.83 (talk) 17:21, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2021
remove league 1 under league and replace it with Vanarama National league North Rivals1222222 (talk) 20:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2021
Honours and achievements: Hull City have just been confirmed champions of the 2020-21 EFL League One season, their first divisional league title since 1966. Please update. 79.73.96.236 (talk) 16:27, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done --Ferien (talk) 18:35, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Incorrect squad
Incorrect squad currently listed and no one allowed to change it due to it only being able to be touched by a select few... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.249.184.79 (talk • contribs) 18:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The squad changes are made on 1 July when the contracts of existing players have expired and incoming players actually start their contracts. Keith D (talk) 19:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2021
Tyler Smith's squad number has been put on the Hull City website as 22. Thedinglad (talk) 18:48, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅Interesting Geek (talk) 19:00, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Kits
Is there anyone who could add the home and third kits for the 2021–22 season?


 * Home kit
 * Third kit

Keith D (talk) 22:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2022
Remove current managers name everywhere as he left (grant mcccann) 194.207.126.175 (talk) 17:41, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 20:32, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Archive photos
How do I send to the archive section an old photo of Hull City football team from 1911 which features my great grandfather in the team photo 213.205.197.128 (talk) 13:58, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * See c:Commons:Upload for uploading files. Keith D (talk) 00:11, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Kit update
Can anyone update the socks for the away kit as they should have 4 stripes as per arms of sleeves rather than all white. Keith D (talk) 15:44, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2022
In "Coaching positions" change update date to 3 November 2022, when Liam Rosenior was appointed, text modified but date not changed. 86.187.173.30 (talk) 15:01, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thanks for your request. Actualcpscm (talk) 20:29, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Club Management Section
Within the section named above the role description needs changing to Academy Manager and Jon Beale is no longer at the club https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/hull-city-academy-beale-exit-4296947 and has been replaced by Richard Naylor https://www.wearehullcity.co.uk/club/academy/academy-staff/staff/staff-members/richard-naylor/

The community element needs to be on a sepeted table box and the community lead is Tigers Trust and the Cheif Executive Officer is Catherine Bishop https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/first-look-inside-tigers-trust-5380887.amp User19901234 (talk) 06:19, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reporting the problem with the article. I have changed Jon Beale to Richard Naylor and made a note in 2020–21 season article. The community position does not really fit here, may be a short paragraph on the Tigers Trust is needed. Could create a separate article for more detailed information. Keith D (talk) 18:12, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2023
Delete "majorly" from "majorly improved" in relation to Liam Rosenior's perceived improvement of the club's position. "Majorly" is slang in UK English, and in this case is redundant as the sentence reads perfectly well without it, and is more neutral. 86.169.132.22 (talk) 11:04, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done No "majorly improved" in text Lightoil (talk) 12:28, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the IP was referring to "majorly strengthened". I have removed word. Keith D (talk) 15:54, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Hull City Badge
The dates for the Hull City badge use are incorrect. The crest listed as used from 1979 to 1998 was only used from 1999 to 2001.

The badge listed as used from 1998 to 2014 was actually used from 2001 to 2014.

Please amend. 2A00:23C6:9310:6C01:7456:249B:BE93:8AD0 (talk) 22:34, 6 July 2024 (UTC)