Talk:Human urine

In the very first sentence: is it really necessary to tell everybody that urine is "pee"? Is it really appropriate to use slang--especially somewhat vulgar slang--in an encyclopedia article? After all, I don't see the Feces article mentioning "poop". Supraspinal 01:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

From article: "Urea is 10,000 times less toxic than ammonia". Can we find a source for this info? I'm weary of throwing around large numbers to drive home the point that something is large. It makes the entire article look less credible..

The definition for Urine reads, "Accelerator for Compost." If you have ever noticed that the dog's urine bush dies, it is due to the anti-microbial action in urine. This is part of the reason it is sterile (it is fresh pressed from blood!) A suggested change: 'Accelerator for Compost once it is aged for three days.'

NB: the three days is what I have been told, and would like to confirm!

FURTHERMORE, I will come out of the closet and propose inserting information about Urine Therapy (using urine for treating bug bites, skin lesions, mouthwash, toothpaste, daily ingested vitamin and hormone supplement . . . ) Z redsquare@latinmail.com


 * Aside from being unsourced, it is hard to fathom what "10,000 times less toxic" could mean. I assume it is supposed to mean "0.0001 as toxic" but even then, is there really a linear scale of toxicity?--Mathew5000 06:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I've read that before in biology textbooks. The figure 10,000 times less toxic IS accurate.  And YES there IS a toxicity scale, it has to do with how large a dose will kill a certain percentage of test organisms (mice, or lab rats usually.) - BlakeFW@comcast.net

Wonderful actual study here on treating wounds with urine. https://www.rjpbcs.com/pdf/2010_1(3)/87.pdf

Ammonium smell
Isn't it ammonia (NH3) instead of ammonium ions (NH4+) that make (old) urine smell? And isn't it microorganisms that create ammonia from ureum, especially some time after the urine left the body? I didn't dare to change the current text that explicitly says that it hasn't anything to do with germs. Hankwang 16:34, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Reverted what looks like vandalism.... In any case it seems unsuitable for an encyclopedia article. Went from 65.99.136.11's revisions back to Duncharris'. -User:Jenmoa 04:03, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Blood in the urine?
the article mentions sugar in urine, what about blood? indicates liver problems? (clem 19:03, 4 May 2005 (UTC))


 * Indicates kidney problems. Pretty bad ones, in fact.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 20:47, 4 May 2005 (UTC)


 * hehe, must contaminate my urine samples with sugar and a little blood to prank my doctors! (I think I heard in some context that ppl tried that, not sure what it was though) (clem 00:01, 5 May 2005 (UTC))

~Temperature
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So what about it? It has body temperature in the bladder and loses heat rapidly as it passes through the urinary tract and leaves the body. This is why in a wintery meadow one can see quite clearly from the steam which cow has been urinating. JFW | T@lk  14:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Kills bacteria? Conflicting statements
This statement "Urine has also been historically used as an antiseptic. In times of war, when other antiseptics were unavailable, urine, the darker the better, was utilized on open wounds to kill bacteria."

Seems to conflict with this one, "However, after that, bacteria that contaminate the urine will convert chemicals in the urine into smelling chemicals that are responsible for the distinctive odor of stale urine; in particular, ammonia is produced from urea."

In one, it says urine kills bacteria, the other says bacteria will convert chemicals in the urine into smelling chemicals. So which is it? Considering that urine does indeed smell, I would go with the second, and question the validity of urine being able to kill bacteria.

I have heard information which has said things like this, but I cannot find any sort of written references. The reason I came to this page was in reference to something Madonna said to David Letterman once when she said that urine (meaning human urine) was a good way to combat athlete's foot. I have searched the internet for information that would corroborate this statement, but I have found nothing. Overall, this sounds like something that is more wives tale than real fact, but it would be interesting to have someone verify the validity of it.

Urine may not actually be a waste
Google "urine is not a waste" - I believe that expelled urine is rather an excess which the body does not need.
 * Urine is INDEED a waste according to doctors and experts in the medical field. -- S iva1979 Talk to me  14:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Urine is water plus solutes. A certain amount of water is required to excrete the waste products (e.g. urea), see azotemia. So actually you are both correct. JFW | T@lk  14:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Merge to urine
Why not merge Human urine with urine? It seems a bit silly to differentiate, and the other interwiki's don't. GilliamJF 22:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * There differentiated because feces and human feces are. If we merge this, then we should also merge human feces with feces. 205.188.116.71 19:31, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I believe there is value in keeping human urine as a seperate topic to urine in general. As this has not been discussed since 2006, I've removed the merge template from the article. Thebagman (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Also because the vandals are too stupid to realize that this is the article most people are reading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.175.254.105 (talk) 23:49, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Jellyfish stings
The sentence in this article: "Urine is known to be good against jellyfish stings as it neutralises the pH of the venom. Male urine is recommended as it is slighty stronger than female urine." contradicts the sentance in the Jellyfish article that states: "Rinsing the sting site with...urine will encourage the release of venom." Which is correct? Jilly 12:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Urine having an effect on jellyfish stings has no effect. It is just an urban myth.Zanibas 06:53, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Do you have a source for that? Powers T 13:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Bahaha, the urine page needs cleanup!

....Well, I found it funny. :\ --IQpierce 21:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Jackass
Regarding this edit, who is "he"? The pronoun has no antecedent. Powers T 14:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

"It tastes salty"?
Who actually tasted their urine?! This is the taste of semen flowing with the urine up a man's anus.69.157.120.27 06:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The link to the article urolagnia will answer that question Fr ac tu reTalk [[Image:Flag_of_Canada.svg|18px|]] 06:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Sterile
There is no mention of the sterility of urine (assuming no infection). I believe that was one of the reasons it was used in wartime. If they knew it or not, using urine to clean a wound was far less risky than using available water sources. Fr ac tu reTalk  06:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to know roughly how long it remains sterile for before it becomes a dangerous breeding ground for bacteria and the like. 92.8.61.55 (talk) 14:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

merge "Diagnostic uses" section from Urine
I think actually all these diagnoses are used by veternarians (sp?) as well, just maybe not as frequently as with human physicians.Lisamh 18:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I think the merger should go ahead Trouserdemon 21:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Cultural Uses
Is this article really useful,especially the line that some people like to be urinated upon,if so then the header should read "Sexual Fetish".And why the reference to Jackass and CKY...which is really unimportant for this kind of article and gives the whole article and amateur look. Sugreev2001 14:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Fatal Fly Agaric
I find no evidence heavy enough to state in this article that the fly agaric mushroom(Amanita Muscaria) is "occasionally fatal". Close-to if not every supposed fly agaric poisoning that has led to death was either caused by a close relative of the fly agaric or was treated as a poisoning of another mushroom, causing the death of the patient. The fly agaric is contrary to popular belief not actually deadly, but rather unhealthy to consume in larger quantities when fresh, without drying. See the article "Fly Agaric", section "toxicity". Dragu 02:11, 15 December 2006 (EET)

In the same paragraph, there are two contradictory statements. Conflicting opinions belong on the talk page, not the article. Either cite them or remove them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.161.164 (talk) 20:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

i agree with most of you. in fact this image could be considered sexual harrassment for there are kids who use this website.this comment is meant for the below pic. sorry :DAMIDALA 1991 14:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)amidala_1991AMIDALA 1991 14:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Is the image really necessary?
Is the picture of a man urinating in any way necessary to the usefulness of this article?

While I admit that we should be careful about censoring images if they have scientific or artistic merit, I hardly think a digital camera shot of someone peeing has either of those things. Everyone knows how to pee, and where it comes from. I think maybe a textbook drawing or some sort of diagram might be more appropriate. This image just seems vulgar and crude. Jason 15:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the image until further agreement is reached. Initial source: thumb|left|260 px|Male Urinating Rares 19:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I wouldn't have a problem with a photo of someone urinating, but this one is just poorly made. (or, excuse me, I moved the image to the top of the section so it wouldn't distort the next section. Feel free to put it back if you disagree with my move.) ---J.S  (T/C/WRE) 04:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

nitrogen & gun powder
Urine was an early source of nitrogen for usage in gun powder before synthetic nitrogen became commercially viable. People would save toilet waste to be collected for that purpose. I don't have a source off hand and I might be missing important details, but it might be worth looking into for someone who is interested. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 04:55, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

The section on unusual colorings
It's a joke section consisting of vandalism. Honestly, how can a call from a friend make your urine blue? I'm getting rid of it. Inkbottle 00:37, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Psychedelic reindeer urine: clarification needed
The section "Ancient Uses" contains this statement: "The potency of the mushroom does not decrease significantly until around the seventh consumer." The paragraph does not reveal what that means. It looks like it means that after someone consumed reindeer urine, someone else imbibed the urine of that first person, and so forth, but presumably only if the first person reported a positive result (that is, if they could be induced to pee before flying off). If that is what it means, the paragraph should say so explicitly. Some additional cultural background would also be helpful: Were these people reindeer herders so that they could somehow force one of their charges to eat the mushrooms even if it would normally have avoided them? And exactly how did they manage to collect the prized urine? Did they follow a reindeer around waiting for it to pee, and then lap it up off the ground? Did they attach a collection bag? Did they ply it with strong beer until it just had to pee and was too sodden to run away? Steve Wise 13:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)