Talk:Humanist Movement

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disambiguation
The page needs a disambiguation header. The term "Humanist movement" is used much more often to refer to secular humanism than to this cult. Dadge (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Conflict with the environment
I'm not sure about the section title. This section is intended to document those organisations and individuals that accuse the Humanist Movement of being a sect in order to ensure a balanced page. If there are any better ideas for the section title then be my guest.
 * After Tony's additions to this section (excellent work!), I changed the section heading. Tedernst 14:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Nonviolence
Thinking about the Nonviolence page. Does our Active Nonviolence match what they're talking about? Seems to me no, of maybe active nonviolence is broader. Let's think about how to bring this out and go deeper, okay? Tedernst 13:35, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * My opinion is that I don't think it is such a stretch from the Non-violence to our active non-violence and they refer a lot to Ghandi and Luther King both of whom are sources for New Humanism Tony68uk 22:53, 04 October 2005

New Humanism
There's also a New Humanism page that talks about our stuff and 3 other ideas using that same name. Tedernst 17:32, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've just seen the link, thanks Ted. I think we should think about that page at least the section that refers to this page and tidy it up a bit. Tony68uk 22:53, 04 October 2005
 * Just made major tidying up on the New Humanism page. Nothing links to that page thinking it's about us except for the HP Switzerland and I've now changed that link to a new page called New Humanism (Humanist Movement) that redirects here.  We could just removed the section on New Humanism that's about us and put a disambiguation link at the top saying something like  Tedernst 17:23, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Update: The New Humanism page now is just for the Babbitt stuff. At the top is a link to New Humanism (disambiguation) which has a link to New Humanism (Humanist Movement).

Silo
I started a page that's since been moved to Mario Rodríguez Cobos. Silo goes to grain silo. The Tomás Hirsch page now goes directly to the right place and the grain silo page points to the Cobos page from the top as a disambiguation link. Tedernst 15:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Orientor/Orientator
Here in the US we tend to use the word "orientor." In the UK the term of choice is "orientator." Orientator seems to be closer to the Spanish term "orientador." I don't believe unifying language is necessary, though agreeing on a treatment within this article might be helpful. The term adherent is similar with some using collaborator or supporter. We don't need to use all equivilent terms every time one of them appears in the text, but would be useful that their equivilance is mentioned the first time either one is used. Any ideas how to do this? Tedernst 15:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * If wikipedia has a convention in these kind of instances then we could follow that, otherwise it probably makes sense to mention the difference in the first occurence of the word 'orientator' (in this case) and leave it at that. There is also the Centre/Center issue.
 * I've made some changes in the Functions and Adherents sub-sections. See what you think Tony 11:31, 12 October 2005 (BST)
 * Your edits look good. I've found this policy page about spellings.  It actually explicitly cites the center/centre example.  The bottom line is that consistancy within an article is the most important point.  I suggest we leave it as-is (with the orientor/orientator explanation you put in) and continue to only use orientator (as much as it pains me to even write that word! :-) ) in future edits.  Other wordings can be cleaned up to the British spellings if I've Americanized them, as we come across them, or if the differences don't seem jarring, just leave them alone.  Tedernst 15:02, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Humanist Forums and CMEH
hi i noticed that the page is not updated - it should also mention Humanist Forums and World Center for Humanist Studies. also other things more could be, but the Forums i think are quite important. i don't have time to write a section now, if someone has time please do, otherwise i can try at a later moment. Cheers Juha

18.november2006 added the sentence "In 1993 the Document of the Humanist Movement was published. The first Humanist Forum was held in Moscow, Russia, and The World Center of Humanist Studies was founded." in the history section. Juha

Missing references about conflicts
Clearly there is missing references in the text about the conflicts. Noticing that I added the following sentence, as a start:

A research by Professor Barr-Melej from the University of Ohio [1] contains some information about the early conflicts.

Juha

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These guys are a cult
Somebody needs to step in and do something about this page, as it is totally NPOV. This organization has obviously taken it over and are using it to recruit. Note that posters above talk about "getting our stuff" into Wikipedia. Here in Spain they are considered to be a cult, and I see no reflection of that fact anywhere in the text. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.33.158.121 (talk) 19:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree. That is why I, member name Plegamiento, am adding information so people can know more about Silo's Humanist Movement, which is a cult. Check out my additions. Plegamiento — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plegamiento (talk • contribs) 03:34, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Religion
I have just removed a line from the article under conflict with organisations as follows:

"Some former members are complaining movement as a religion."

Apart from the line being strangely written the line is unsubstantiated. Some former members may be complaining that the movement is a religion but surely it needs some kind of reference? I've taken it out for now. If someone can find a reference then it can be reverted and the English corrected. Tony (talk) 19:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

BIAS!!
This article presents a biased pro-humanist view. Should defenitely be rewritten!--77.251.250.103 (talk) 14:10, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite
Yes, the whole page needs a thorough re-write much of this is wildly outdated and no longer reflects the way the Humanist Movement works. The thing about merging with the Humanist Party and the Humanist International. In reality the Humanist International page probably needs deleting as obsolete and the Humanist Party could be merged here, but this page would need updating. Tony (talk) 16:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Why?


 * Why exactly is it the humanist international that should be deleted and this one that's to replace it and not the other way (after an update)?
 * http://www.humanistmovement.net/?secc=PH
 * They use both the term "Humanist Movement" and "Humanist Party International" on that page and while both terms off course can be used..
 * Well, the first one can be mistaken as having more connections to the humanist life stance then what the party actually have.
 * There are left-wing humanists (life stance) too.
 * Just take a look at http://www.labourhumanists.org.uk/about-us/
 * They're not an actual political party, but they do influence one of the major parties in the UK from within and who knows, perhaps they'll end up a party one day.
 * Anyway, I would suggest that the new humanist movement article could replace this one and then this could redirect to the new humanist movement article (after it's been rewritten) as the movement, the parties and the life stance is three different things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luredreier (talk • contribs) 12:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, that's just my two cent..
 * Luredreier 11:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, the Labour Humanists you linked to, are affiliated with the British Humanist Association (BHA), hence they are not related to Silo's "Humanist Movement" which seems to mix pacifism and humanitarian ideals with Eastern spiritual ideas and rituals. Bever (talk) 14:04, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Not acceptable sources
I have deleted some sources not allowed for Wikipedia policies (WP:BLOGS): --Whatsupchap (talk) 21:18, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The Community for Human development ---> Dead link
 * Humanoidex ---> Personal blog
 * Secta-Humanista ---> Dead link
 * NoSilo! -- "dedicated to exposing and denouncing Silo's 'Humanist Movement' cult" ---> Personal or group blog

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