Talk:Hun and po

This article looks good so far!
Excellent work, Keahapana! I see you've already made a link for this new article in Society and culture of the Han Dynasty. Did the latter have anything to do with your decision to create a new article? Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 01:05, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your praise. No, a linkbot orphan warning motivated me to wikilink that Han article along with others. This is just a first draft for 魄 and 魂, and I look forward to any corrections, suggestions, or contributions you make. Cheers, Keahapana (talk) 03:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah! I removed that orphan warning after creating a link for hun and po in the main article for the Han Dynasty. I will most certainly contribute what I can to the article, most likely by the end of this week. Until then, take care.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 03:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

History section
Hi Pericles, thanks for your additions concerning Han dynasty hun and po beliefs. Best wishes, Keahapana (talk) 01:18, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Keahapana! No problem; it was a pleasure to work with you. Unfortunately the sources I cited did not explore the issue of hun and po in greater depth, certainly not to the extent of your sources. If I come across anything substantive on my trip to the library (for another project), I'll make sure to add more relevant content. Cheers!-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 02:30, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

WP:ERA
According to this edit, the usage of the page was established as BCE/CE. Kindly maintain it consistently. — LlywelynII  12:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Bronze script for 魄
The current image for the bronze script form of 魄 may not actually be bronze script. It is found in Liushutong, which has various scripts from the Xia dynasty to the Han dynasty, so it is hard to determine what script it actually is. Liushutong only gives it an annotation of "牧敦", which seems to be a source, but I can't be certain of the era it comes from. The form with 白 + 鬼 isn't actually attested in the bronze script. It is 霸 which is attested in the oracle bone and bronze scripts. I suggest that File:魄-bronze.svg be replaced with an actual bronze script form of 霸 and moved to File:霸-bronze.svg. What do you think? Justinrleung (talk) 18:55, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, please. I'm interested in but not very knowledgeable (like 霸 as a loan for 魄) about early Chinese scripts and am a helpless newbie with Inkscape. Thanks for improving 魄-seal.svg, it was one of several svg characters that I've uploaded (and probably also need better versions). Thanks again for quickly creating 玕-seal.svg, lang'gan has a wonderful history of semantic change. Best wishes, Keahapana (talk) 22:07, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Regarding hún etymology
Has anyone explored the etymological possibility that hún is regarded as the shadowy "dark" soul because, to build off Schuessler's suppositions, a cloud moving in front of the moon casts a shadow and makes everything go dark? If so, where? SpakeTheWeasel (talk) 13:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If they had, they would've been as confused as those "exploring" the "etymological possibility" that Adam was regarded as made of dust because a dam is a structure used to block the flow of water.


 * 魂 is a phonetic compound and there is no semantic content in its phonetic half. (Don't feel too bad. The article was misrepresenting that too: It used the right words to describe the character's construction but then droned on about the "meaning" of the phonetic bits in a misleading way, similar to if we pretended 雲 is "cloud" and 云 is "sayeth" or "speaketh".) — Llywelyn II   22:44, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Nope
This article has mostly good content and it's helpful that it exists in some form.

This isn't an article on hun and po any more, though. It's just a badly organized article on Soul (China) or sth similar. Hun and po might need to redirect there, but it shouldn't just sit here pretending linghun &c are the same concept. — Llywelyn II   22:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC)