Talk:Huntington, West Virginia/Archive 1

11/26/05 edits
An anon user made some good edits, but they do not conform to wikipedia style formats. There is some rambling and some pov, but alot of good stuff. I will start working on format when I get my hands on a better computer (at least by work on monday). Please feel free to hack away if someone with a better connection sees this by then. Cheers. Youngamerican 02:35, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

I have highlighted proper nouns, some have articles and some need articles

The plane crash is especially important.........07:16, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

This is the Corps of Engineers page,  confirming   http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lrdjobs.com/images/ritter_park1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.lrdjobs.com/hunattractions.asp&h=140&w=170&sz=10&tbnid=RZqS1TS2rOcJ:&tbnh=77&tbnw=94&hl=en&start=19&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dritter%2Bpark%2Bhuntington%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

Here is the City Hall website, confirming:

http://www.cityofhuntington.com/Visiting/History/history12.asp

24.92.146.253 04:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Convention Bureau, confirming:

http://www.wvvisit.org/pages/attract2.htm

Stratton Douthat, West Virginia USA (1976)

New England Historical Association:

http://users.wpi.edu/~jphanlan/REGISDOC.htm

City Hall History Time Line ; confirming in many details:

http://www.cityofhuntington.com/Visiting/History/index.asp

24.92.146.253 04:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Geographical statistics. confirming.

www.city-data.com/city/Huntington-West-Virginia.html

24.92.146.253 04:44, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

See the versions between November 26 and December 5, 2005

for names of specific Huntington political and community leaders...........

(i.e., extended narrative and banned "hagiography"...........native)

Old discussion
In the spring of 2006 it was announced that a major motion picture will be filmed about the Marshall University plane crash of November 1970 and the subsequent football season. Tentatively titled "We are ... Marshall" the film will star Matthew McConaughey as head football coach Jack Lengyel. Filming will commence in Atlanta and Huntington in April 2006, directed by McG with Warner and Legendary Films. Filming in Huntington ended in April 2006, when production of "We are ... Marshall" moved to Atlanta and Morris Brown College's 12,000 seat stadium--which resembles Huntington's former Marshall football facility Fairfield Stadium.

(Huntington article was condensed, see November 26 - December 4 2005 for original long version).

Nearly three-fouths of the links on this page are to articles that are not relevant. For example Douglass High links to an article about a high school in Atlanta; South Side links to an article about the South Side of Pittsburgh; and Mountaineers links to an article about a Seattle hiking club. Further many of the "future article" links are currently existing articles under other names. For example WSAZ TV is already covered by WSAZ. It needs to be cleaned up.

It also needs some POV editing, particularly in the education section. --SamC 16:23, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Huntington and Marshall scholars, this page needs a lot more historical info. Suggestions? --Andreidude 18:22, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

East Carolina was Marshall's opponent that fateful day in 1970.

Wow, what a disaster of an article. Hagiographic POV, bad links, a lot of dead wrong information (Chuck Yeager is from Huntington? News to me.) ... I'll try to help clean this up, but to be honest, it needs a top-to-bottom rewrite. Aaron 19:16, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that positive support, Aaron!

new version.................12/9/05

Chuck Yeager is from Myra, just outside West Hamlin, or about 16 miles SE from Huntington.

Myra is about 32 miles SE of Huntington, and about an hour's drive away. Chuck Yeager was not born in Huntington, nor did he ever live there; I have removed him from the article. If you're that desperate to include his name in this entry for some reason, feel free to write about the scholarship he set up at Marshall. Also, you are asked to sign your posts on talk pages. --Aaron 22:16, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Photos...
I am going to take some photos for the article. What should be included? Here are some ideas: Pullman Square, Old Main, City Hall, the old city library, 4th Ave, Charleston Ave, Ritter Park, a view from the South Hills, a view from the cemetary, the art museum, brick houses in the south side, old high schools, etc. Which of these would be best and would balance realism with idealism?  young  american (talk) 23:39, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * A general view of the downtown skyline would be good in addition to these. Malepheasant 01:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

There is an excellent photo on the web taken from the middle of fourth avenue at some elevation with the Keith Albee to the left.

The Rose Garden and 2nd Street footbridge in Ritter Park also have good online images.....
 * Those would be good, but we have to be careful about copyrights.  young  american  (talk) 00:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Update: I added soem photos I snapped to the article. I do not neccesarily like the order in which they appear, but I tried to keep them close to related sections in the article. I will now work on some formatting and article flow issues to match these and other images I have for the article. I will also try to get one of the city skyline on a good clear day from the Robert C. Byrd Bridge. Thanks for the imput.  young  american (talk) 21:29, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Recent Edits
Looking at the list of events, I find myself wondering whether Guyandotte Civil War Days and Guyandotte Heritage Days are the same event. Does anyone know if the event has been renamed? They sound identical from the descriptions.

Also, the small disagreement over Ben Bowen's addition to the list of notable people makes me wonder if this list needs significant pruning. It's easy to add names to a list, but according to WP:BIO, the persons on this list should have their own article or be worthy of a full article. Would there really be sufficient resources to create articles for each person on this list? Oherian 12:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've trimmed out the two red linked b-ball players, leaving everyone else on the list with articles. As for the Guyandotte festivals, I will call city hall sometime during the next couple of days to find out the answer to your question.  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 13:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Seperate Economy from History
I created a new sub titled Economy, and created a sub under that titled Cityscape. The reorganization of the naming conventions and reordering is based on the Louisville, Kentucky city page, which was featured as a featured page and was also shown just recently on the U.S. portal. I am sure that with some work, we can get this article expanded and nominate it in the future :)

Also, can anyone tackle the seperation of the Economy from the History article?  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 15:16, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Should include Pullman Square as part of the economy section (revitalization of city) Vbofficial 14:19, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Notable community members
I realize the individuals listed have their own wiki link, but shouldn't they have a brief identification with them as well? Vbofficial 14:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * BE BOLD  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 15:19, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Public services
What does anyone think about reorganizing the headings? Many of these--education, airport, roads, library, fire department, museums, etc. could be under the heading Public services. In my opinion, much of the information, which is good, is "jumbled" and in no particular order.
 * BE BOLD.  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 16:42, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see a total reason to include a fire department in on that. Museums seem to fit more under Culture (along with the Keith Albee, etc.). Libraries can fit under education-- and that can be expanded some. I'  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 17:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

The restaurants...
As an anon user keeps reinerting Cam's Hams into the paragraph on hot dog stands and drive-ins despite the fact that it is neither, it begs the question as to whether or not the names of the restaraunts should be included in the first place. After all, it kind of comes down to opinion about what should and should not be included. what does everyone else think?  young  american (ahoy hoy) 02:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Notable natives, such as Stewart's and Hillbilly's, should be included, along with Jim's, IMO. But if its a place like Cam's Hams -- which I have not heard of before BTW -- then it shouldn't.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 02:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I can't find it in the directory.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 19:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It is on 1st Street. Not a bad place, I just don't know if it is iconic enough. And it certainly isn't a hot dog stand or a drive-in like the others.  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 19:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Is this new? I couldn't find it in YellowPages or the sole Huntington phone book that I still have. I'll have to try it out the next time I am in town.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 19:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It's been around for years, and I learned an interesting piece of trivia today: Cam's Ham used to be a drive-in, but closed that portion of the restaurant. So the user that has been adding it has some validity to placing it there.  I'm going to rewrite that section of the article somewhat, including Cam's Ham and Wiggins as closed drive-ins.  Feel free to change it back if you think it's unnecessary. Oherian 12:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Where did you hear this? For what it is worth, Midway is also reopening.  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 13:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I mentioned the constant addition of Cam's Ham to a long-time resident, and he's the one who told me. It explains the cars on their sign, something I'd never understood.  And Midway is reopening?  That's good to hear. Oherian 04:41, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Music
Expanding the article by adding a music section might be useful. I'm about 60 miles from there, and we go there quite often, there's a rich music scene... Rather, various ones. All different types of music. Think it would be beneficial to add? -Motleh 05:43, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. Just make sure that you keep it well-sourced and without WP:OR.  young  american (ahoy hoy) 11:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Festivals
Would it make more sense to group the Festivals based on the time of the year? Particular days will change from year to year for some, but most remain in a particular month. What do others think? Oherian (talk) 15:46, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Good call. They should be listed from Jan 1-Dec 31.  young  american  (wtf?) 17:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

New skyline pic
A post-Emmons fire skyline photo might be a good fit for the infobox.  young  american (wtf?) 14:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Swinefest?
A recent newbie added 'swinefest' as an annual festival. Any more information available? I removed it for now. –SJ + 02:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Why is the Metro Population smaller than the City Population?
or is this possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.38.78.82 (talk) 02:40, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Education
Education section should include information about the public and private school systems as well, not just higher education.Vbofficial 14:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * A listing would be all that is needed, unless it is truly notable, like Huntington High.  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 15:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

West Huntington is in fact serviced by Wayne County schools, but this has been omitted from the article. 173.69.172.121 (talk) 18:08, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

MSA population claims
Article states the following: "As of the 2010 census, the metropolitan area is the largest in West Virginia.[5] It spans 7 counties across 3 states, with a population of 364,101.[6]"

Citation [5] above contains no population statistics nor rankings, only alphabetical listings, and therefore does not support the claim that the MSA is the largest in WV. Further, an MSA with populations from two neighboring states could not be the largest in a state of which [xx] percent of the population does not reside in said state. Population figures from other states would be excluded from the total. By the standard used to make the above claim, the largest MSA in WV would irrefutably be the Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV Metropolitan Statistical Area.

Without a better citation that accurately shows rankings of MSAs in WV, these claims are not supported. If no alternative is provided, I will edit the text to broaden the claim so that it is accurate/true, i.e. "one of the largest in WV."Brakoholic (talk) 15:17, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

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