Talk:Hurricane Ekeka

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Ekeka...not the earliest TS in CPac history?
While Ekeka has mentions in the CPHC archives as well as in other documents, a new fact seems to have come to light: it may not be the earliest formation in the CPac. JTWC, Gary Padgett, and a document from the University of Hawaii peg that 1989's Tropical Storm Winona formed east of the Dateline and that it, at one point, held tropical storm intensity in the same basin. The UoH document (done in April of 2008) mentions that it was one of six cyclones added to data sets (the others were the 1975 Unnamed Hurricane and four depressions). The JTWC document also mentions that Winona was the cause of flash flooding on Kauai. According to the Padgett summary (in a small column for the April 2004 summary), Winona had no advisories issued while in the CPac, thus meaning that as a tropical cyclone in the CPac, it lacked a name (if named, it would have been named Aka). Any ideas on this one? Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 09:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * UoH document:
 * JTWC summary for 1989 (Winona is the first storm):
 * Gary Padgett summary for April 2004:


 * This is certainly an unusual situation. I checked JMA, and their best track said it was briefly a TD east of the dateline. It is very weird that the CPHC doesn't even mention it. The question is, how would we cite this? I used the EPAC HURDAT as the source for Ekeka's record. The UoH document isn't a complete database, and the JTWC report is only the one storm. Maybe email CPHC if they'll be adding that info to the best track? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * We could always do what we did for 2007 NIO (Yemyin). Jason Rees (talk) 23:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

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