Talk:Hurricane Joanne (1972)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Sven Manguard (talk · contribs) 06:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

I will be performing a review of this nomination within the next 48 hours.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  06:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

GAN Quicksheet 1.24 SM (Criteria)

Starting comments:

1. Well written:
 * a. prose/copyright: Pictogram voting delete.svg
 * "Joanne originated from a tropical disturbance that first developed on September 26 about 300 mi south of Guatemala, with ship reports and satellite imagery indicating an area of squally weather." - This sentence is unclear to me: is the "area of squally weather" Joanne or the tropical disturbance?
 * "Over September 27 and 28, it moved west at a rather quick rate." - What is a "rather quick rate"? I imagine that a quick rate for a hurricane is rather different from a quick rate for a human, so some sort of reference unit would be very helpful.
 * It's trival to add an exact speed if there was one. YE Pacific  Hurricane 22:54, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * "The initial disturbance to Joanne brought squally weather to Guatemala." - I don't understand what is being said here. What is "The initial disturbance to Joanne"
 * "One person was also killed in the city." - How?
 * I don't know; newspaper did not say. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "The flooding caused $10 million (1972 USD) in property damage and eight deaths." The flooding from Joanne only or from Joanne and the second storm that was mentioned in the preceding sentence?
 * Fixed, good call. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * b. MoS compliance: Pictogram resolved.svg

2. Accurate and verifiable: 
 * a. provides references: Pictogram resolved.svg
 * b. proper citation use: Pictogram resolved.svg
 * c. no original research: Pictogram resolved.svg

3. Broad in coverage: 
 * a. covers main aspects: Pictogram resolved.svg
 * b. focused/on topic: Pictogram resolved.svg

4. Neutral: 

5. Stable: 

6. Image use: 
 * a. license/tagging correct: Pictogram resolved.svg
 * b. relevant/properly captioned: Pictogram resolved.svg

7. Additional items not required for a GA, but requested by the reviewer:
 * a. images that should have alt texts have them: Pictogram voting delete.svg
 * I think that the only image that can hold an alt text is the third image. Please give it an alt text.
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 22:54, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * b. general catch all and aesthetics: Pictogram resolved.svg

Comments after the initial review: To be blunt, you need to spend more time copyediting. I'm used to fixing articles up as I go during reviews, but you've left a lot more work for me to do in that regard than I can ever remember having to do for an article that I considered likely to pass. I'm sorry, but it just feels rushed, and the Wikicup isn't license to rush through prose.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  18:10, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * See if that helps. =)  Thegreatdr (talk) 18:26, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Issues 2, 4, and 5 from above still have not been resolved.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  19:57, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll leave those bits for the GAN submitter. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:59, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review Seven. YE Pacific  Hurricane 22:54, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Two concerns still not addressed:
 * You still have not addressed whether the flooding that caused $10 million was solely from Joanne, solely from the storm after Joanne, or from a combination of the two.
 * Seems pretty clear to me. YE Pacific  Hurricane 06:08, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * If you're going to make the statement that the storm moved quickly, some sort of context is needed. It doesn't have to be "37 MPH", but something that contextualizes why it's faster than normal is needed. Alternatively, you could just remove mention of speed in that sentence.
 * I don't see why there has to be context, it's from the source. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * I removed it though. YE Pacific  Hurricane 06:10, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I won't be around until late tomorrow, so I'll check back in then.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  05:53, 27 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright, promoted.  S ven M anguard   Wha?