Talk:HyAxiom

Proposed Changes
I am posting this on behalf of Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. We would like to request that this article be renamed ClearEdge Power, Inc. and a new article be made for Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. The information in this page pertains primarily to the now defunct ClearEdge Power and several misrepresentations are made regarding Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. Not only are these inaccuracies a misrepresentation of fact, they are causing our company to lose out on potential hires. This Wikipedia article has been specificaly referenced by candidates in declined job offers.

The main issue at hand is that the article misrepresents that Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. was a some point bankrupt when, in fact, Doosan Corporation purchased the assets of bankrupted ClearEdge Power and created a new entity, Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. Through various edits this article has become an amalgamation of information from two different companies and does not accurately represent either. Rather than delete all of the information about ClearEdge Power, thereby virtually erasing its history, we suggest creating a new article for Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. and removing information regarding Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. from the ClearEdge Power article. I have detailed the specific misrepresentations/inaccuracies below.

Contested Text

"Doosan Fuel Cell America(formerly ClearEdge Power, Inc.) is a fuel cell manufacturer focusing on the stationary fuel cell. It is headquartered in South Windsor, Connecticut, U.S. The company employed 225 people as of August 2011. It closed its operations in Connecticut in April 2014, and filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in May 2014. The company has been merged with Fuel Cell Power of Korea (not to be confused with FuelCell Energy)."

Issues

Doosan Corporation purchased the assets of ClearEdge Power, Inc. in July 2014, a few short months after ClearEdge Power, Inc. filed for Chapter 11. Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. was formed as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Doosan Corporation. ClearEdge Power, Inc. and Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. are two separate entities. 1. The text "formerly ClearEdge Power, Inc." is inaccurate and misleading 2. Doosan Fuel Cell America did not employ 225 people in August 2001 as it did not exist. The article which is referenced actually states that ClearEdge employed 225 people at its Hillsboro factory. 3. "It closed is operations in Connecticut in April 2014." Again refers to ClearEdge Power. 4. "The company has been merged with Fuel Cell Power." Fuel Cell Power was assumed by Doosan Corporation and is operated under Doosan Corporation's Fuel Cell Business Unit. Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. is a separate entity.

Contested Text

"Doosan Fuel Cell's headquarters are in South Windsor, Connecticut. The main product is a four hundred kilowatt fuel cell.

The technology is based on silicon and operates at 320 °F.

The fuel cell is powered by natural gas which a membrane breaks down into water, heat, carbon dioxide (CO2), and hydrogen, with the latter passing through a second membrane where electricity is generated. CO2 and water are the only waste produced. The micro combined heat and power fuel cell have approximately 85% total fuel efficiency. PEM fuel systems have an electric efficiency of about 30%."

Issues

Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. produces a 460kW stationary phosphoric acid fuel cell (PAFC). It is not a silicon based technology. The articles sited above refer to ClearEdge Power technology not Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. technology.

Contested Text

[Category:Energy companies established in 2003] [Category:Non-renewable resource companies established in 2003] [Category:2003 establishments in Oregon] [Category:Privately held companies based in California]

Issues

Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. was not established in 2003. That was Quantum Leap Technology which later changed its name to ClearEdge Power. Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. is not located in Oregon and is not based in California.

Conclusion

Thank you for taking the time to review these proposed changes. It is our position that the changes we have requested are neutral, well-documented, and essential to restore veracity to the article. Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. welcomes accurate, thoroughly researched and documented updates and edits to its page. I have written a suggested text for a new Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. article in the section below.
 * Declined as promotional. The current text is already cited properly. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:32, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Additionally, I note that this was an article on ClearEdge, and I suspect given the anon-editors, that Doosan people ignored my advice years ago to start a new article and instead moved the ClearEdge to this title and did some changes. The best solution would be for Doosan to step away and heed the conflict advice. Then, revert the move and restore the old ClearEdge version there, leaving Doosan as a redirect to Doosan Group until a proper, non-promotional article can be created for the fuel cell part of the company. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:57, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Suggested Text for New Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. Article
Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Doosan Corporation, a 119 year old global corporation headquartered in South Korea. The company was founded in July 2014 following the acquisition of the assets and intellectual property of the former UTC Power (a division of United Technologies), in South Windsor, Connecticut. Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. manufactures and sells phosphoric acid stationary fuel cells (PAFC).

History

Founded in 2014 following the acquisition of the assets and intellectual property of the former UTC Power (a division of United Technologies) by Doosan Corporation, Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc. is built on the experience of its employees and the more than 50 years of broad investment and development in fuel cell technologies that accompanied the acquisition.

Timeline of applications of Doosan Fuel Cell technology :

Fcaval (talk) 20:57, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * 1960s: Apollo space missions relied on fuel cells for electricity, heat, and drinking water
 * 1970s: Stationary fuel cell power plants, First commercial demonstrations of stationary fuel cell power plants
 * 1980s: Space shuttle orbiters utilized three fuel cells for all missions
 * 1990s: 200 kW stationary fuel cell (PC25) is commercialized, with over 300 units sold
 * 2009: PureCell® Model 400 is released to the market with industry-leading 10 year stack life
 * 2014: Doosan Fuel Cell America is formed

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Edit Request – Page Move/Rename; Corrections on Infobox and Lead
NOTE: I’m proposing the following edits for FleishmanHillard on behalf of HyAxiom, Inc., formerly known as Doosan Fuel Cell America. I am a paid editor and aware of the COI guidelines. The company has undergone a name change and key facts about the company have changed as well, so I’m submitting this request in the hopes of making corrections to the article’s title, the infobox and the lead section. Please let me know of any questions or comments as you review. Thanks for your time and consideration. Jon Gray (talk) 16:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Page Move/Rename

As mentioned above, Doosan Fuel Cell America was renamed HyAxiom, Inc. in February 2022. As such, I propose a change of the article’s title from “Doosan Fuel Cell America” to “HyAxiom, Inc.” If I need to request the move elsewhere, I’m happy to do so. I figured I’d start here given the COI.

Infobox – All requested changes are related to the company’s name change and shifts in their business.
 * Please change “Doosan Fuel Cell America, Inc.” to “HyAxiom, Inc.” per the source cited above.
 * Company logo: HyAxiom’s logo is located here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HyAxiom,_Inc.jpg
 * Industry: Request changing the Industry from “Alternative energy” to “Hydrogen energy” given HyAxiom’s focus on hydrogen energy products.
 * Headquarters: HyAxiom’s headquarters moved to East Hartford, Connecticut. Given that, I propose changing the Headquarters field to read “East Hartford, Connecticut, USA.”
 * Parent: Please update Parent field to read “Doosan Corporation”
 * Website: Please update Website field to read http://www.hyaxiom.com

Lead Section


 * Given the company’s name and business model change, I propose the following as the new lead section (replacing the existing) as the current lead is now incorrect. Citations are included for reference:

HyAxiom, Inc., formerly known as Doosan Fuel Cell America, whose predecessor was ClearEdge Power, Inc., is a hydrogen fuel cell manufacturer focusing on stationary fuel cells. HyAxiom is the U.S. subsidiary of Doosan Corporation and is headquartered in East Hartford, Connecticut.


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Unable to process this for now. Due to your COI, you should submit a move request first. Anyone may reopen this ER at anytime. Quetstar (talk) 20:21, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, @Quetstar. I'll start there, then revisit/re-open this after it's been addressed. Jon Gray (talk) 20:08, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Quetstar - just flagging that the page move was approved and has been implemented. I've reopened the edit request in case you or another editor would like to review. Thanks again for your reco on how to revisit this request! Jon Gray (talk) 14:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 12:44, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 26 October 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 01:38, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Doosan Fuel Cell America → HyAxiom – Doosan Fuel Cell America was renamed HyAxiom in February 2022. As such, I propose a change of the article’s title from “Doosan Fuel Cell America” to “HyAxiom.” Please note, I’m proposing this move for FleishmanHillard on behalf of HyAxiom, Inc., formerly known as Doosan Fuel Cell America. I am a paid editor and aware of the COI guidelines. Thanks for your consideration. Jon Gray (talk) 00:03, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Move to HyAxiom as WP:NCCORP prescribes the use of legal status suffixes mostly in disambiguation contexts. No such disambiguation is needed here. Pinging the nominator,, to make them aware of this guideline. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 06:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, @Sammi Brie. I've updated the move request to remove "Inc." as suggested. Jon Gray (talk) 13:17, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)