Talk:Hyder Ali/Archive 1

Origins of Hyder Ali
Dear Wikipedia; It was very common for converts to Islam in South Asia to claim that they were descendants of the prophet Muhammad in order to conceal their previous caste, therefore it is likely that Hyder Ali was a descendant of local Mysore Muslims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.182.127.229 (talk) 12:50, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Many people in the United States claim to believe in astrology; does that mean it is true (or "more likely")? Diverging claims of Hyder's ancestry are apparently quite common, given that several are already listed here.  This is why we use reliable sources to distinguish the ones we include from the ones we exclude.  If you can document (i.e. cite a suitable historian) that claiming descent from Muhammad (i.e. caste concealment) was not unusual for the time, that might actually be useful here.  A separate specific assertion (by a historian) that this was (or may have been) the reason for Hyder's claim will also be needed.  Thanks for your contributions, by the way.  Magic ♪piano 13:04, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Encyclopedia Britannica
Could the person who copied this from 1911encyclopedia.com clean this up? There is no reason for Wikipedia to have an unimproved version of text already available someplace else. --mav

Just thought I'd clean this up. Could only complete a small portion. Have to run now. Will come back and do it later. --fr0z3n

from Talk:Ali Haider (military):
 * ''Actually he changed his name to Hyder Ali after he won the war. I wonder why? I will get the book about him book. He was also known among many names Hyder Shah etc...

--Striver 01:34, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Year Hyder became dalwai
User claims Hyder was named dalwai in 1759, apparently claiming Bowring supports this. Bowring does not support this contention; if you want to pursue the claim, you will need a different source. On p. 29 Bowring states that Hyder became army chief in 1759. There were then palace intrigues, and Hyder was not named dalwai until 1761 (pp. 32-33).  Magic ♪piano 12:57, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Note
Sultanate of Mysore and the Kingdom of Mysore are two totally different dynasties.``` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.182.33.151 (talk) 08:29, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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