Talk:Hydra 70

The page contains a number of uses of the word "fuzes". Shouldn't it be "fuses"? Maybe the English dialect of whoever entered the text allows the former spelling, but since the topic is US-related, shouldn't the US spelling apply? I reali(z/s)e that as a Canadian, it is possible that the spelling with the "z" is correct but I doubt it.
 * "Fuse" is not spelt as "Fuze" in any English dialect I know of. --80.229.225.137 18:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well it is spelled "fuze" in American English. See here http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fuze -- Thatguy96 19:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

That site is american of course, but!: 'fuze' is distinct in that it refers to an explosive triggering device, not an electrical component. I doubt different spellings are relevant here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.24.134.243 (talk) 13:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Found this as well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuse_%28explosives%29#Fuze Up to you to decide the correct/relevant spelling now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.24.134.243 (talk) 16:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Picture
The picture at the top of the article is an AH-1G which fired Mk40 2.75-inch FFAR rockets from the M200 19-shot rocket pod or launcher (2 shown). --Born2flie 19:46, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It also says "missiles," a better picture should be located. -- Thatguy96 20:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Did they?
Did they make a nuclear version of this rocket so that if anyone tries to attack a platform that has these rockets, they will be sorry? Mickman1234 (talk) 01:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

No. These rockets are too small for a nuclear warhead.Righteous9000 (talk) 06:34, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Sky blue rockets are inert dummies
Sky blue aircraft rockets--be they Hydra 70s, Sidewinders or whatever--are inert dummies used only as mass simulators for training. This article needs to be illustrated with some close-up photos of real Hydra 70 rockets with live engines and fuses. Some Hydra 70 warheads are turquoise blue but can be easily distinguished from dummies by the presence of the fuse on the forward tip of the nose. The blue rockets in the first photo in this article are clearly labeled as dummies. The third photo also shows dummies. Keep looking. Good photos of real Hydra 70s are easy to find online. Magneticlifeform (talk) 05:04, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

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Missing information
"10 	M442 	Air burst, Motor-Burnout Delay 	Discharges Flare at 3,281 yards (3,000 m), 17-22G required for arming"

What are these 17-22G? Are they a certain type of fuses or does "G" means some kind of acceleration, as in g-force? --37.24.9.229 (talk) 14:23, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

K, found it is g-force so it schould be put like 17 - 22 g and not with a capital "G". --37.24.9.229 (talk) 14:30, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

The map of countries that utilize the Hydra 70 highlights Columbia, but it's not included in the bulleted list. Depending on which source is accurate (the graphic or the list), the other should be brought into alignment.

CRV-7 2.75" rocket
The article states that the Hydra rocket is derived from the American FFAR rocket. I would suggest a look at the CRV-7 rocket, an earlier rocket, developed by Canada. Teknodweeb (talk) 13:08, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Illustrations
I don't understand the politics here. I provided my own illustrations. But I am not allowed to publish them on the page because they are created by me or I have to give up copyright entirely. AkelaFreedom (talk) 10:30, 10 December 2022 (UTC)


 * It's not policy, but copyright law. You cannot post copyrighted images to Wikimedia Commons without clear permission from the copyright holder. BilCat (talk) 10:52, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am the copyright holder AkelaFreedom (talk) 11:01, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Technically, my images are not registered on any copyright sites. AkelaFreedom (talk) 11:02, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The DeviantArt site lists a copyright in your name for 2018-2022 on the image page. That's all that's needed. BilCat (talk) 11:08, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not a specialist in jurisprudence, can you specifically explain what to do according to your rules - I am the author of these works and I want to provide them free of charge for publication in this article, what else is required of me? AkelaFreedom (talk) 11:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Production Contractors
So, looking at an old Tom Clancy book; "Armored Cav", he lists in the Bibliography the the contractor is BEI Defense Systems. There isn't a wiki page for that, but I did find a fascinating source on the companies history:

{edit} the link was blocked for some reason, it was from "reference for business BEI-Technologies-Inc"

It was a former Piano/Organ Company (D.H.Baldwin), in WW2 it's woodworking abilities were used for aircraft manufacture. But post-war, it switched from Wood focus to Electronic focus in Next-Generation Musical Instruments. In the early 50's, this earned it the attention of the Military, then NASA (1963 Baldwin Electronics Inc.). It's unclear when it became contractor for the Hydra-70, as it doesn't seem to have had prior involvement in explosives or rocket engines.

By 1997, it seems to have shut down it's munitions manufacture, it's remaining Products being Sensors & Medical Technology. (As an aside, banking was a major part of it's early history as a piano maker/seller, the banking side was split in 1974, unclear what became of the instrument part of the company)

So I don't know who restarted rocket production after BEI left.

Thought this would be interesting!2603:7080:CB3F:5032:F195:44E2:9B42:EBDB (talk) 21:01, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Since 1996, it seems that General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems was the Prime Contractor
 * Another source says it was "Lockheed Martin Ordnance Systems", that was then sold to General Dynamics in 1999 named "Armament and Technical Products" at the time?2603:7080:CB3F:5032:F195:44E2:9B42:EBDB (talk) 22:01, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

History?
When were they created? What conflicts have they seen service in? All the article says is "The Hydra 70 is derived from the 2.75-inch (70 mm) diameter Mk 4/Mk 40 Folding-Fin Aerial Rocket developed by the United States Navy for use as a free-flight aerial rocket in the late 1940s. The Mk 40 was used during the Korean and Vietnam wars". Okay, so that's when the FFAR was developed and used - when was the Hydra 70? 110.145.146.198 (talk) 01:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)