Talk:Hylton Castle

Some suggestions
I think there are some areas of this article that still need some work before the GA reviewer comes along. For instance:


 * "Why they are they has not been proven, but are believed to show the political alliances of the early Hyltons ..." doesn't make sense.


 * "To the west of the hall was a window, to which the portcullis must have been raised up in front of." That's the sort of sentence that would have them baying for blood at FAC.


 * "Below is a layout plan, by floor ...". You should avoid making any reference to things being below, above or whatever, as you have no way of knowing how the article has been rendered, or by what. It may be being listened to, for instance.


 * "In relation to the diagram below, the shields are:". As above, plus what diagram?


 * Date formatting needs to be consistent, even in the References section, where some some are autoformatted and others aren't.


 * I'd strongly recommend standardising on the template for the web references; I've changed ref #21 as an example. Ga has become much tougher about the quality of sources in recent months, and even for web references the publisher is expected now.


 * ✅ - All done. Craigy (talk) 20:34, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

--Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 19:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Two questions

 * "The first castle on the site, built by Henry de Hilton in about 1072". Was this first castle also a manor house? I think the type of castle should be mentioned.
 * I've not seen it mentioned what type of castle it was, so I'm not sure. Craigy (talk) 23:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Do we know what happened to the castle during the barons' rebellion against Henry II in 1173? Who was it held by, supporters of the King or the rebels? The King made a list of the castles held against him (although the list does not survive in its entirity); if there is no mention of the castle during this period it's probably because it was owned by a supporter of the King, sadly I don't have a source for this and would count as original research without evidence so couldn't go in the article. Nev1 (talk) 22:45, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've not come across this either whilst reading about the castle. I think one of the down sides of the books on the subject is they tend to focus more on the period after it was constructed from stone. I'll see if I can find it out though. Craigy (talk) 23:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Re: Two questions:


 * The book Sunderland and its Origins: Monks to Mariners, by Maureen M. Meikle and Christine M. Newman, published in 2008 by Phillimore and Co Ltd on behalf of England's Past for Everyone, contains several pages on Hylton Castle.

On page 62, one passage of possible interest to the barons' rebellion question reads: "Alexander de Hilton, lord of Hylton in 1172, was a witness to the borough charter of Wearmouth, granted to Bishop du Puiset circa 1180 and was still head of the family in 1196, when he made a payment of £4 for the feudal due known as scutage."

Although it doesn't say specifically who the castle was held by in 1173-1174, Alexander was obviously around at that time, and the book doesn't mention he had to leave the castle at any point around then. -- seahamlass  10:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


 * That would indicate that Hylton Castle was on the side of the King as Alexander would probably have been punished had he rebelled (many rebels were executed and/or had their lands confiscated). It's good enough for me but sadly isn't good enough for wikipedia as it would count as WP:SYNTH. In that case we'll just have to leave it out. Thanks anyway. Nev1 (talk) 21:00, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

GA Reivew
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outdated for ca14 years
"past few years; most notably on 4 July 2004". Uuh. nothing new since?? 47.71.37.1 (talk) 10:56, 24 October 2018 (UTC)