Talk:I'll Make a Man Out of You

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I have just started writing this Disney song related article and would like to see if anyone would be willing to help in expanding it --Drakehellman 11:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Drakehellman

Added some detail
I just thought I'd add a bit of what happens in the song after she reaches the top of the pole. Kind of offers a more detailed view of the happenings during the song.Ecoamiga 16:29, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Picture
How do i add a picture,I've got a great one for this article,its from the movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canuck Kid (talk • contribs) 14:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Helping
Okay... I'll stop editing now. I'm just trying to help out. But I can see that some of my suggestions are being rejected so you probably think I'm being a bit of a nuisance. Sorry. :)--Coin945 (talk) 15:49, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi. It's not so much that you're being a "nuisance". It's just that...a lot of your edits, although your heart is in the right place and you obviously mean no harm, are counterproductive. I mean, I appreciate your references but you constantly cite incorrectly – simply inserting a url into an article is NOT a proper citation, and I strongly suggest that you learn how to cite properly if you want other less tolerant Wikipedians to take you seriously as an editor, otherwise you might be labelled as vandalism.  Also, a lot of your references are links to articles and books that I have already cited elsewhere in the article – you did this a lot during the "Context" and "Music" sections.  If you find information on a book or website and feel that it should be included in the article, always check to see if that particular url has already been used BEFORE you create a brand new citation.  If so, locate that url within the article and reuse the citation as opposed to creating a new one.  I can provide some links that explain this in more detail if you like.  While there are times when I am able to correct your citations – I did this for your edits to the "Reception" and "Covers" section, the edits you made been last night and this morning have grown overwhelming, and it is simply easier for me to remove them and re-cite them properly if I have time.  I do hope you understand.--Changedforbetter (talk) 16:04, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

, just wondering why the section about Honor To Us All was removed from the article. (Not trying to start an argument or anything. Just genuinely wondering. :D). Is it gone for good or is it being copyedited then reinstated. It took a bit of time to analyse those sources and create the paragraph, thats all. Your answer might provide some valuable insight into the sorts of things I should put into song articles and the sorts of things I should exclude. Thanks. :)--Coin945 (talk) 13:18, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * It's not gone for good. It's definitely being copyedited (I've simply pasted your paragraph into a Word document for editing) and reinstated because not all of the information you put was entirely relevant to the "Context" section and more suitable for the "Music".  Also, the sources you cited I already had in the article.  Thanks for asking!--Changedforbetter (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Ahh yes... you are entirely right in regard to me accidentally using sources that were already in the article. My apologies. Thank you for your reply. :). Oh also as a random side note, while checking out all the Wikipedia articles on Disney's songs, I realised that the majority of Disney's Academy Award for Best Original Song winners have pretty woeful articles. Could be an interesting area to head to?--Coin945 (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * When You Wish upon a Star, Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah, Chim Chim Cher-ee , Under the Sea , Beauty and the Beast (Disney song) , A Whole New World , Can You Feel the Love Tonight , Colors of the Wind , You'll Be in My Heart , If I Didn't Have You , We Belong Together (Randy Newman song) , Man or Muppet , Let It Go (Disney song) --Coin945 (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah I've definitely noticed that the majority of Disney-related song articles are in pretty crummy condition. The reason I've mostly avoided editing more popular and award-winning songs is due to their popularity and the amount of attention that they get from editors, especially Let it Go and Beauty and the Beast, who constantly clutter the articles with unsourced claims that really don't improve them at all.  A few years ago I attempted to transform Beauty and the Beast, and the process was chaotic to the point of which I simply gave up.  Hopefully I can get to them soon...maybe Colors of the Wind is a good place to start.--Changedforbetter (talk) 15:45, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I had a quick look at the edit history of B&B. Yes... it seems like those Disney fans like to add random unsourced fancruft... Hmmm... :/ In any case the information you managed to include prior to giving up is fantastic. :D I love to read about these songs I grew up with in detail - their genesis, themes, reception etc. It's great. Please keep up the good work.--Coin945 (talk) 18:40, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey someone left a message on article saying that the audio sample is too long. Do you think you can fix this?  Reduce it to, like, half of what it is now (may I suggest only the first chorus ("Be a man...")? Thanks!--Changedforbetter (talk) 23:38, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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