Talk:IATA airline designator

DE
I may be missing something completely obvious here, so please don't jump all over me. :-)

Anyway, the July-September '04 Star Alliance timetable lists several flights that have a "DE" airline code. For example, there's DE4062 from Frankfurt to Halifax, departing at 1440 and arriving at 1655 local time. There is no DE code listed in this article or in the legend at the beginning of the timetable PDF.

Do you think someone simply messed up and replaced LH with DE, for Deutsche (sp?) Lufthansa? Or is this an evil plot to create a new airline code without IATA (or whoever) approval? I can't stand the suspense! ;-)

Thanks in advance

anonymous Wikipedia newbie


 * I found DE (Prime Air Inc.) on this web site, and added it to our list. There are lots more to be added. -- Heron 08:07, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * Prime Air looks to be a small airline with (unscheduled?) flights from Boeing Field/King County International Airport in Seattle to Whistler, BC...not one that would fly from Frankfurt to Halifax. However, there may be another Prime Air out there that didn't show up in the first few pages of Google results.


 * Other flights with DE codes in the timetable include all the listed flights out of Antalya, Turkey, which go to several major cities in Germany (not just Lufthansa's hubs, Frankfurt and Munich). -- Wikipedia newbie, 2 Aug 2004

updated a, b, and 1. still working on the rest. nwt

6U
What is 6U? They are flying among other Vilnius - Kyiv, Ukraine. Jakro64 21:20, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I discovered the French translation is much more developed and found the answer there myself - Air Ukraine! Jakro64 21:34, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Page Name
Should be in the singular- I am moving it accordingly. Deano 20:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

HMM... I'm now questioning the wisdom of my above move... is there a template somewhere that uses a link to the old page name??? Anyway, if anyone disagrees with the move then just move it back. I'm now unsure is the benefits outweigh the costs! Deano 20:51, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Requested move
Should this article be moved to IATA airline designator (curently a redirect here) or IATA airline designators? I think the second is correct. Vegaswikian 07:31, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * It is standard wiki practice to have names in the singular form. Therefore I think it should be singular.  If you meant that A and D should be in lower case... then I'm not really sure.  There could be a fair argument that the name as a whole is a proper noun, and therefore all letters should be capitalised.  Deano 12:31, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * But lists are plural like US Airways destinations. And this is a list nav page and not a real article.  Vegaswikian 22:44, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I have added this to requested moves as noted above. The experts can advise and assist.  Vegaswikian 06:40, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * If the decision is that "IATA Airline Designator" is a proper noun then it has to have capitalisation for every word and therefore it makes more sense to leave it in the singular form because it is a proper noun.
 * HOWEVER, if it is decided that it is a common noun, then I agree it should become "IATA airline designators" in the decapitalised and plural form.
 * Deano 08:35, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * My vote is for "IATA airline designator", because the sister page is "IATA airport code".
 * Urhixidur 19:44, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I also prefer "IATA airline designator". Plural titles should only be used in exceptional circumstances, such as when the singular makes no sense or is nonstandard. —Caesura(t) 19:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

When a consensus is made, you will find you can perform the move yourselves, without administrator intervention - I deleted and re-created the redirect. Rob Church Talk 12:32, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Low-value picture
I think the current picture at the front of the article, Image:HK_IntAirport_-_IATA_codes.jpg, offers very little added-value to the article and suggest it is removed. One can barely read the IATA codes displayed on it. AirOdyssey 03:23, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's something you can do if you want, WP:BOLD. Vegaswikian 04:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Length of article
I removed the double wikilinks. Example: AA: American Airlines (United States) became: AA - American Airlines (United States) Not only it reduced the article size, but it's more in accordance to the Manual of style in terms of wikilinking. AirOdyssey 00:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

9X is Itali Airlines!!!

4G
4G is Gazpromavia, not Shenzhen Airlines (corrected)


 * Shenzhen restored - please read article with reference to controlled duplicates MilborneOne 12:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually my IATA MITA (not the entire coding directory) book from last year lists shenzhen as ZH, not 4G at all. Same thing for another source of mine. Keep in mind, for this, and all other codes, that IATA's codes are an absolute mess. They change all the time and different departments disagree on codes.


 * airlinecodes show 4G as Shenzhen Airlines (CSZ) with controlled duplicates for Gazpromavia (GZP) and Advance Leasing Company (previously (BC*). Also it appears that Shenzhen Airlines was at ZH for a while.  Vegaswikian 19:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Duplicates
Please do not remove any duplicate entries. Either they are controlled duplicates, issued by IATA, or reassigned codes where both need to be listed for historic accuracy. If the code changes, leave the listing at the old code with a comment about a new one being aigned. Again this is needed for historical accuracy. Vegaswikian 18:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * And I suggest that, as per IATA standards, the controlled duplicates are asterisked (the duplicates, not the originals). Also, as in the 4G example, listing shenzhen there seemed to be completely incorrect, both currently and historically.

Replacement article
I'm going to be combining IATA airline designator, ICAO airline designator and List of airline call signs into a single article. To avoid losing information during this process, I'm going to delete each section as it is converted. If you need to update a section that has been converted, please do so in the new article, Airline codes. Vegaswikian 20:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)