Talk:IEEE 11073 service-oriented device connectivity

Discussion on Title
The title of this article should be "IEEE 11073 SDC Communication Protocol" or "IEEE 11073 Service-oriented Device Connectivity (SDC) Communication Protocol", respectively, if the long term for the abbreviation shall be included in the title. The current title of the draft "IEEE 11073" does not fit, as this article deals with a particular sub-family of the IEEE 11073. As this IEEE 11073 SDC sub-family is very different from "classical" IEEE 11073, we decided to publish it as a new Wikipedia article. When it is published, I will add a reference on the ISO/IEEE 11073 Wikipedia article. I am sorry, most likely, I did something wrong with the title when submitting the article for review.
 * If this draft is about a sub-protocol, or is not about IEEE 11073, please change its title by moving it, rather than just resubmitting it. It appears that the author has submitted this draft again rather than discussing the title first.  I will have to decline this draft again, and to advise that discussion be either here, on this draft talk page, or on the parent article talk page.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:59, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Comment About Parent Article
The parent article reads as if it was copied from the IEEE standard. That isn't a problem with this draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:59, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Submission to the Parent Article ISO/IEEE 11073
In accordance to the "Submission declined" comments of Robert McClenon and Zanhe, I submitted the content as part of the parent article ISO/IEEE 11073. However, as there as big architectural differences between the “classical” IEEE 11073 PoCD and PHD standards, I will hopefully find enough time to extend this part and later on, we can discuss about a splitting of the article. --Martin-imd (talk) 13:51, 3 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your clarification about the title. I've accepted your draft and replaced the info from ISO/IEEE 11073 with a link to this one. Thanks for your contribution! -Zanhe (talk) 23:10, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Sentence-case format vs. capital letters of an abbreviation

 * With reference to WP:SENTENCECASE you reverted the change of the title to "IEEE 11073 Service-oriented Device Connectivity". In my opinion this is not a matter of title case vs. sentence case. The capital letter S, D, and C represent the abbreviation and common name "SDC". Please compare this with other communication standards, e.g. Fast Healthcare Interoperability Resources. However, I think User:Bdijkstra you are right with removing the "(SDC)" at the end of the title which I proposed. This not fit to the conventions. Thus, I propose the title "IEEE 11073 Service-oriented Device Connectivity" for this article.--Martin-imd (talk) 20:26, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * First, I reverted no title change; you used DISPLAYTITLE, which cannot be used to change letter case (other than the first character), so your edit had no effect. If SDC is a common name and not a proper noun, then according to WP:EXPABBR the unabbreviated name should be written in lower case. --bdijkstra (talk) 06:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you bdijkstra (talk) very much for these very helpful explanations. As I am new in the Wikipedia author community these explanations will help me a lot for the future.
 * According to your hint to WP:EXPABBR I tried to find hints to one of the options: common name or proper name:
 * Definition in Standards ISO/IEEE 11073-20701: "SDC (Service-oriented Device Connectivity): Describes the non-normative title of this standard"
 * Usage by the implementing manufacturers: Dräger webpage
 * Usage in the title of other parts of the standards family by the IEEE, e.g. for IEEE P11073-10700: "Standard for Common Base Requirements for Participants in a Service-Oriented Device Connectivity (SDC) System" – according to their style guidelines, the IEEE uses all capital letter, including the O, while the O is not part of the abbreviation.
 * In conclusion, I come to the end that it is a proper name rather than a common name. (Unfortunately, I chosen the wrong word in my post yesterday, when I wrote common name.)--Martin-imd (talk) 07:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)