Talk:IKEA/Archive 5

Holy overdetail, Batman!
"This article could be bottled and sold to insomniacs. E Eng  03:57, 5 January 2017 (UTC)" Just this statement, no discussion, and the Criticisms section was gone. Today, I'm restoring it to its old glory. JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 11:17, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Request for edit, general updates
Hello. I'd like to propose some updates to this page. There is a new CEO and some updated facts & figures. As I have a conflict of interest (working for IKEA), is there anyone who can make these updates? I've included relevant third-party sources below.

Infobox
 * Number of locations: 411 (November 2017) (same source as before) ✅
 * Key people: Jesper Brodin has replaced Peter Agnefjäll as Chairman and CEO of INGKA Holding, sources: http://fortune.com/2017/05/24/ikea-new-ceo-jesper-brodin/ and https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-24/ikea-names-brodin-new-ceo-to-lead-asia-expansion-online-growth ✅
 * Number of employees: 194,000 source: https://highlights.ikea.com/2017/facts-and-figures/ (the previous link doesn't work anymore) ✅

Intro
 * As of November 2017, IKEA owns and operates 411 stores in 49 countries. (same source as before) ✅
 * There were over 2.3 billion visitors to IKEA's websites in the year from September 2016 to August 2017, source: https://highlights.ikea.com/2017/facts-and-figures/ ❌ Any secondary sources? I don't really know how this is notable.

IKEA Place App for iOS 11, I noticed that the only reference is to an IKEA page, so here are some additional sources: ✅
 * https://www.wired.com/story/ikea-place-ar-kit-augmented-reality/
 * https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/apple-arkit-ikea-place-app-that-could-revolutionize-furniture-shopping
 * https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/12/ikea-place-augmented-reality-app/
 * http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/29/technology/apple-augmented-reality/index.html

Taskrabbit acquisition This could be an interesting addition to the page. I have included sources below: ✅ Stwrhbgmon (talk) 11:12, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * https://www.forbes.com/sites/blakemorgan/2017/09/30/3-lessons-learned-from-ikeas-acquisition-of-gig-economy-start-up-taskrabbit/#2088188137a8
 * https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-10/ikea-group-open-to-more-acquisitions-like-taskrabbit-ceo-says


 * Hi, I have fulfilled all of the edit requests, with the exception of website visitors. How about adding an infobox for ikea.com with the site's Alexa Internet ranking instead? Daylen (talk) 01:36, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for making these updates! Adding the Alexa Internet ranking to the infobox sounds like a good idea. --Stwrhbgmon (talk) 14:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Request for edit, general updates
Hello. I'd like to propose some updates to this page, mainly facts & figures. As I have a conflict of interest (working for IKEA), is there anyone who can make these updates? I've included relevant sources below.

Intro
 * The second paragraph says: "The IKEA group has a complex corporate structure, which the European Union has alleged was designed to avoid over 1 billion Euros in tax payments over the 2009-2014 period.[17][18]" If you read the source material, you can see that it's the Greens/EFA group in the European Parliament who alleges this, not the European Union. This is also (correctly) mentioned in the Corporate Structure section.
 * The second paragraph says: "It is controlled by several foundations based in the Netherlands, Luxembourg and Liechtenstein.[19]" There is no foundation in Luxembourg (Inter IKEA Holding SA, which no longer exists, was based in Luxembourg). Inter IKEA Group is owned by Interogo Foundation, based in Liechtenstein and established in 1989. INGKA Holding is owned by Stichting INGKA Foundation in the Netherlands. Sources: https://www.reuters.com/article/ikea-results/ikea-looks-to-6-bln-revamp-to-spur-growth-idUSL5N1E14O3, http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/ikeacontentcatalog/this-is-ikea/about-the-ikea-group/ownership-structure/ and http://www.inter.ikea.com/en/about-us/Our-owner/
 * Number of stores: As of February 2018, IKEA owns and operates 414 stores in 49 countries. Same source as before; the latest store opening was 26 February 2018 in Israel.
 * The last sentence says: "Most of Ikea's stores and factories are owned by INGKA, a holding company that in turn is controlled by the Stichting INGKA Foundation" The factories in question belong to IKEA Industry, a company that used to belong to INGKA Group but was sold in 2016 to Inter IKEA Group. Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ikea-restructuring/ikea-finalizing-its-biggest-overhaul-in-decades-idUSKCN0XC0IA

Corporate structure
 * A paragraph about Australia that had been removed, was put back on 7 January 2018. IKEA Australia used to be operated by two companies. But since 1 March 2017, all IKEA stores in Australia have the same owner. Here are two sources: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au%2Fbusiness%2Fikea-managing-director-david-hood-talks-about-the-swedishs-giants-in-australia-and-building-more-than-just-25000-sqm-stores%2Fnews-story%2F5acd4a7a315e048058237e687e1d6237&usg=AOvVaw2OBWVZOrTnD_PPj8ralUog and http://newsroom.inter.ikea.com/news/all-ikea-stores-in-australia-to-operate-by-ikea-retail-australia/s/7f88a151-97bf-4a53-95ae-51674324de05

Stwrhbgmon (talk) 11:44, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

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Spelling of brand
I learned that according to the Associated Press the name of the company should be spelled as Ikea and not IKEA: https://twitter.com/apstylebook/status/712688973626413056. This article is 99% spelled as IKEA. I can only see 1 instance of Ikea (caption of the image of the location in Hyderabad in India).

ICE77 (talk) 15:53, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * On the IKEA website it's written as IKEA and not Ikea. I think the website of IKEA would have the right branding, right? Also, many spelling error fixers change it to IKEA, such as Chrome. – BrandonXLF   (t@lk)  21:05, 24 September 2018 (UTC)


 * As someone who works for IKEA, I can confirm the official spelling is in all caps. However, there was a previous discussion about this issue in connection to the Wikipedia style guidelines (I think in archive #4), and then it was decided to write it as Ikea. I am in favour of writing it as IKEA but I of course fully respect the need to comply to the website's style guidelines.  Stwrhbgmon (talk) 07:20, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Ikea South America
There's no plans to open Ikea in Brazil, but in 2020 will open stores in Chile, Colombia and Perú, the map is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignn (talk • contribs) 22:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Jesper Brodin
I want to contact an editor that can help create a page for Jesper Brodin, the CEO of INGKA Holding. I have followed the guidelines and added a request on this page but the it is inactive. I am employed by INGKA Holding so I have a conflict of interest, which is why I am hoping to get in touch with someone that can create the page. Jesper Brodin meets the criteria of notability, especially as INGKA Holding has begun transforming its business. I have a drafted text as well as sources to reference, if needed. Pontuslu wiki (talk) 08:27, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Request for edit, general updates
Hello. I'd like to propose some updates to this page, related to facts & figures. As I have a conflict of interest (working for IKEA), is there anyone who can make these updates? I've included relevant sources below.

Infobox
 * Number of locations: 424 (December 2018)
 * Revenue: EUR 25,516 million (2018).
 * Operating income: EUR 1,962 million (2018).
 * Net income: EUR 1,449 million (2018).
 * Total assets: EUR 21,482 million (2018).
 * Total equity: EUR 7,298 million (2018).
 * Number of employees: 208,000 (2018).

Intro, third paragraph

As of December 2018, IKEA owns and operates 424 stores in 52 countries. In fiscal year 2018, EUR 38.8 billion worth of goods were sold, a total that represented a 4.5 percent increase over 2017. The IKEA website contains about 12,000 products and is the closest representation of the entire IKEA range. There were over 2.5 billion visitors to the IKEA websites in the year from September 2017 to August 2018, and 957 million visits to IKEA stores.

Stwrhbgmon (talk) 10:29, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply 14-DEC-2018
Regards,  Spintendo   18:39, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) ✅ The employees and number of locations were updated.
 * 2) ❌ The financials were not updated, as the provided figures were of such contrast to the prior year's totals that it is assumed a minor mistake may have been made in their calculations. The COI editor is urged to check the figures again and advise.
 * 3) ❌ The paragraph was not updated for the reasons given in number #2 above.

Response 18 December 2018
Thanks for your edits, Spintendo!

The previous year's figures were not the global figures. They were only from the Ingka Group (previously knows as the IKEA Group), the largest IKEA franchisee, as you can see on the first page of the previous source: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/doc/general-document/ikea-read-ikea-group-yearly-summary-2016__1364331441303.pdf

But now that I'm looking at this again, I realise that some of the figures in the Infobox are hard to define. There are many different companies operating under the IKEA Brand, each with their own financial reports, so there are no global financial figures. What we can define globally is: the number of stores (424), employees (208,000), goods sold (EUR 38.8 billion), store and website visits.

Stwrhbgmon (talk) 09:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

New political case: Poland
See the recent edit and this: https://polandin.com/43263424/ikea-worker-fired-for-not-participating-in-lgbt-promotion-sues-former-employer

A long simmering culture war (sapienti sat), not recenteism. Zezen (talk) 07:12, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Also: I propose merging Controversies with some items from Labour practicies section Zezen (talk) 12:05, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Furniture from political prisoners?
Can't really believe that by 1980, people sat on furniture made by political prisoners in the developed countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.76.41.49 (talk) 12:32, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Officially hosted YouTube video that may be a good EL
Officially hosted YouTube videos are OK Els, so... This may be good in a sub-article about IKEA practices... WhisperToMe (talk) 06:32, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Difficulty of exiting
Mention the stores are like a maze,,.

"You follow an arrow trail, obliged to see the entire 350,000 sq ft before you can buy a thing."

Jidanni (talk) 13:11, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Mention "to exit early, one can ask an employee, that you are feeling sick and wish to exit early." etc. Jidanni (talk) 14:31, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

First German IKEA in Konstanz?
Can someone please confirm this? AFAIK the first one is in Eching and was build in 1974, there is none in KONSTANZ according to google at least. 2003:6:5388:B958:6044:DF2:1273:2AC3 (talk) 01:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC)


 * According to several sources I found, the opening of IKEA in Konstanz was actually on accident A normal peep (talk) 17:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Pronunciation of IKEA
I'd like to take note now that, for 4 years, IKEA has said that the pronunciation for IKEA that is commonly used, as is shown in the article, is not "eye-kee-a", but rather "ee-kay-uh", as if it were spelled EKAYA.

For references, see these.

‘Ikea' Reveals How to Pronounce ‘Ikea', NBC Conneticut

For its 75th anniversary, it’s about time we learn how to pronounce “IKEA”, QUARTZ

We've Been Pronouncing "Ikea" Wrong This Whole Time, House Beautiful

The request is simple: Change the pronunciation from "/aɪˈkiːə/ eye-KEE-ə" to "/iˈkeɪːʌ/ ee-kay-uh" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Just some random dude with a pc (talk • contribs) 21:03, 7 December 2020 (UTC)


 * This really should be changed, considering that eye-kee-uh is technically improper pronunciation... A normal peep (talk) 17:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm a bit late to the discussion, but do we even really need to include an English pronunciation for a Swedish brand? The article already gives the Swedish pronunciation, and the "correct" English pronunciation is just an approximate of that, so why even include it? Besides, most English speaking people still don't pronounce it that way, rather pronouncing it eye-KEE-uh, and they're going to do that no matter what Wikipedia says. Stvlnd (talk) 20:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)