Talk:IMesh/Archive 1

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Bearshare and iMesh
BearShare and iMesh are pretty much the same thing. Same formats, same Myspace-like options. My neighbor downloaded these two, finding the only difference is the logo and name. --71.224.24.99 18:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Explanation here: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-6069167.html. According to http://torrentfreak.com/shareazacom-hijacked-and-turned-into-a-scam-site-071224/, Shareaza is also under the iMesh umbrella now. Mkro (talk) 18:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

No, the Shareaza WEBSITE was hijacked, and is under the iMesh umbrella. The program itself is still Shareaza. -FrYGuY (talk) 13:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Shay Horovitz
An anonymous user keeps adding that swarming was introduced into iMesh by Shay Horovitz. I have two problems with this:


 * The user only links to Mr. Horovitz' personal web page, which does not even mention this, and there are no citations.
 * Is Mr. Horovitz notable for this? If so, why does he not have his own wikipedia page? If not, why is it noteworthy in this article?

Before it is readded to the article, both of these need to be addressed. -FrYGuY 08:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear user FryGuY, I approve that the requested changes were correct. My personal web site was simply not updated for years. You may contact me using the mail that appears in the web site if needed. All the best, Shay Horovitz 22:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Without an independent source to verify this, it still violates Wikipedia's No original research policy. Until it is verifiable, it simply isn't information which can be included. -FrYGuY 22:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe that Mr. Horovitz was the person who practically invented iMesh, and was somehow screwed over by the company, but I don't know the exact details. Perhaps that's the reason there's no mention of him on the site. 132.77.4.129 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 08:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Scams by iMesh
If found suitable by non-iMesh related people, I'll make a section about the scams/copies by iMesh, Bearshare and Shareaza, together with a lot of references. Neglacio (talk) 04:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

thats what I came here for. please fill in. 213.199.128.147 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Go ahead. --70.143.32.7 (talk) 18:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Permanently purchase?
The wording "iMesh users can permanently purchase tracks for $0.99 each" does not seem quite right. According to http://imesh.com/helpTech.html#3 the tracks are sold as Windows Media DRM. Also, from the end of the same paragraph, "an improved user interface and greater stability" sounds a bit too much like a press release. Opinions? Mkro (talk) 18:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

It works like a rental store, you pay so much a month to download as much as you like, or you can buy each song for $0.99 to keep for good, should you cancel the subscription. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.225.148 (talk) 01:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * So, songs you buy for $0.99 don't have DRM protection? --70.143.32.7 (talk) 18:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd agree, one doesn't "own" DRM songs. The whole premise of DRM is that someone other than the listener owns it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrun (talk • contribs) 06:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Accuracy of iMesh Facts
The statement: "iMesh was the first company to introduce a working 'resume' feature, allowing users to pause downloads and resume them at a later time." is inaccurate. Resuming downloads is a very old feature - for example it is included in RFC 959 for FTP (File Transfer Protocol) from October 1985:

RESTART (REST) The argument field represents the server marker at which file transfer is to be restarted. This command does not cause file transfer but skips over the file to the specified data checkpoint. This command shall be immediately followed by the appropriate FTP service command which shall cause file transfer to resume. Tinysausage (talk) 12:31, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

iMesh 10
iMesh 10 has been released. I don't know when it came out though. 70.62.142.66 (talk) 21:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)