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Discrepancy
In the lede, it says that ING is the 18th largest company in the world by sales with $150 billion. The source is the 2012 Fortune 500 list. However, looking at the company's actual income statement, I see that sales were in fact, $42.6 billion. So far, I have been unable to account for this discrepancy but, admittedly, I haven't spent too much time on it. There may be sales that are presented on a different financial statement of a separate subsidiary -- I don't know. However, if a real accounting for the discrepancy between the two numbers cannot be produced, then the sentence must be deleted. After all, the income statement is straight from the horse's mouth. ask123 (talk) 19:40, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I decided to be bold and removed "The Group is also the world's 18th largest corporation by revenue.." In addition to the above discrepancy, the source link is wrong. It links to the 2014 list, which doesn't even mention ING. 73.49.233.247 (talk) 23:46, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.ing.com/Our-Company/Press-room/Press-release-archive/PressRelease/ING-to-sell-ING-Direct-USA-to-Capital-One.htm. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. MER-C 09:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Cites for capital injection/repayment section
I updated the Capital injection/repayment section, but didn't have time to sprinkle in the appropriate citations. If anyone wants to do it before I get a chance to come back, here are some useful reference links:

NorthernRaven (talk) 04:26, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 2009 EC insurance divestiture requirement
 * 2009 repayment
 * 2011 repayment
 * January 2012 strategy update

Sources to consider for inclusion
found items which have not been incorporated but might help content


 * --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 20:01, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 20:01, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Insurance section
I have just removed the insurance section as a clear copyvio. As such, it needs rewriting. If any of the rest of the article has been copied word-for-word, it really needs to be removed. J Milburn (talk) 17:29, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation?
Could anyone indicate the correct (=Dutch?) pronunciation? In radio ads here in Italy, it is roughly pronounced as "E-N-G" would be pronounced in English, which is in fact what led me to search what country the company is from :-) &mdash; Gennaro Prota &#8226;Talk 16:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

ING Australia
The statement that "ING Australia had been defrauded of $45 Million" doesn't belong under ING Direct Australia. ING Australia (insurance/superannuation), distinct from ING Direct Australia, was the company this article related to. ING Australia was purchased by ANZ in 2009, and rebranded as "OnePath" in 2010: http://www.onepath.com.au/aboutOnePath/9890.aspx. ING Direct Australia remains part of the group. Mjhilton (talk) 05:50, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Fixed it. I think I've got it right now, but please correct (with refs) if I've missed something. peterl (talk) 11:06, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

ING Direct section
The ING Direct section seems excessively long/detailed compared to the article as a whole, I don't want to go in and delete information recklessly, what do people think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibmonkey88 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The statement that ING Direct Canada has been sold is incorrect, this is still part of the group. Only the insurance section of ING Canada was sold-off: http://www.ing.com/group/showdoc.jsp?docid=367050_EN 24.132.106.8 (talk) 06:24, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Mongolia
On the map, Mongolia is grey, yet it is on the list of places where ING operate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.102.52.2 (talk) 14:10, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Merger proposal
ING Direct is a marketing name of ING Group, so that article should be a paragraph in this article.124.170.100.123 (talk) 21:29, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Removed Incorrect Information
My name is Martin Boer and I work in External Communications at ING Group in Amsterdam. I can be reached at martin.boer@ing.com / Today I removed two erroneous references to ING having offices and made an acquisition in Bosnia-Herzegovina. This is simply not true. I have also removed references to our former CFO, Cees Maas, who retired a few months ago. This is my first time on Wikipedia so please do inform me if this needs to be handled in a different way. Best wishes, Martin Boer. martinboer 14:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That's fine. This appears to be a strict factual issue and you were very up front about it.  If you think any change would be controversial in the future, I recommend you suggest it here (on talk) and let others have the final say.   I have made another change to the "Key people" section by adding John Hele, the new CFO, and using official titles.  All three people are cited to their profiles on ING's web site. Superm401 - Talk 05:51, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Added Internal Links
I have added Internal Links to this article. Kathleen.wright5 03:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Added ING Australia - Investment site and amended ING Direct site
I have added ING Australia - Investment site and amended ING Direct site. User:Kathleen.wright5 03:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

ING Property Management "Bullies" Commercial Real Estate Tenants
Looking for information/history on ING Real Estate's business practices with commercial property/building management.71.62.42.225 17:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality disputed
Is the 'neutrality disputed' box still necessary? It seems to me (judging from a glance at the talk page and history) the dispute was related to the labor dispute and 'the wrongdoings'. IMHO this box should be removed. CjDMaX 20:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've tweaked the wording for the ethics investigations so that's more NPOV, and have detagged it, seems fine now. --Firien need help? 15:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Defamatory Material Removed
Today I had some free time, so I looked at the labor dispute section. There were no valid sources (a reference to the union's press release doesn't count). The material was highly POV and used inflammatory language. I therefore deleted the whole thing. Feel free to reconstruct that from scratch if you can find some reliable sources. Otherwise, the material doesn't belong in this article. Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 16:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

General comments
Is it just me, or almost this whole article about what the company did wrong? (Darkskul 19:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC))


 * I agree. If the company was wise, they would send a representative to post here on the talk page.  We need additional information and references to properly balance the article.  They can wait for some editor to come along and do all that work, or they can facilitate the process by supplying information that we can verify and use.  Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 15:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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