Talk:IOS (Apple) version history/Archive 1

2.2 and Background Processes?
At WWDC 2008, they talked about a unified push notification service being available in September. (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7DZj5EY7L4) And "On September 25, 2008, Apple released the first Beta SDK (labeled Build 9M2611) for targeting iPhone OS version 2.2 (Build 5G29)."

Did anyone played with the SDK to see if this service is available to developpers, and if so, if it could be a feature to add in the Developper Beta version 2.2? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.60.116 (talk) 00:48, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Delete iPod touch references
this article is about "iphone OS versions" not ipod touch versions, does anyone else agree to remove the ipod touch verions from the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rashanir (talk • contribs) 15:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * NO, it shouldn't be removed because iPhone OS is the name of the operating system of the iPhone AND iPod Touch. --White Hawk (talk) 21:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

iphone OS refers to the software used on both the iphone & ipod touch; so the references should remain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlos nomad (talk • contribs) 00:56, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Modem Firmware (Baseband) ?
Can someone provide a legend for the table headers and their significance? For instance "Modem Firmware (Baseband)" What does that actually mean to me as an iPhone owner? 2.2 lists 3g, does that mean I can't use it if I don't have 3g? These are questions I think many people seeing this table would have. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.14.228.89 (talk) 17:14, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * BASEBAND is the GSM-Modem firmware of the iPhone! It is not so important to know the exact meaning of this but you must know (If your carrier not approved by Apple) that the unlocking process done on the iPhone baseband! So if you have previously unlocked your iPhone after updating BASEBAND your phone get locked and you must unlock it again! As you see 2.2 lists both 3G & 2G model! The other headers (Such as SDK & Build version) is for DEVELOPERS ONLY! Mojtaba Cazi (talk) 13:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

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Abuse by MiszaBot I (deletion of threads claimed to be archiving)
MiszaBot I claims to be archiving old threads from this talk page, but is in fact deleting them. For instance, the threads supposedly archived on November 12 are NOT on the archive page. This may or may not be intentional, but it makes all edits by MiszaBot I suspect, and it needs to stop. While it is reasonable to archive old threads, they should not be deleted just because they are old. --Brouhaha (talk) 20:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Good link for listing new features in 3.0 beta
http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/iphone-software/easter-egg-hunt-for-100-new-features-45072.html

Obviously not a good reference but a good place to see what is listed and verify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildonrio (talk • contribs) 00:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Style issues
This article is not written as if it were part of an encyclopedia. It assumes the reader is intimately familiar with the technical terms and casual lingo of a moderately proficient computer user. "Bottom bar in Safari is now semi transparent", for example, doesn't tell a casual reader anything other than something might be invisible right now. It's not in the past tense (This firmware version was released to developers. Past tense.), it uses the term "semitransparent" which does not have an immediate meaning to someone who doesn't know what the interface is, let alone what it looks like, it doesn't clue the reader into how this would affect the user, etc etc rant rant. I'm not trying to bash anyone in particular; the entire article suffers from this.

To extend my example, I'd use the haughty-taughty wording "Changed the navigation controls across the bottom of the display in Safari from opaque to partially transparent, making the portion of the web page behind the controls visible"

Obviously I have the time to compose a rant on the talk page, so why don't I do it myself? Because I care about the quality of the article, but I don't have the language gymnastic abilities to do it on a larger scale. Maybe soon, but not today. 70.91.178.185 (talk) 01:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Tables always rock
The table format isn't useful here for 2x up. 1x is fine, as theres a time-based element to incremental changes, and the "features" lists are short. In 2x and 3x, all of the text is in the features list, and there's nothing but dead air on the left. -99.29.63.161 (talk) 03:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Resorting tables
I think sorting tables ZtoA (latest firmware become first) is better than AtoZ. Any idea about that? Mojtaba Cazi (talk) 11:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Tables
The tables are far too wide, especially the table for version 2.x. The Build and Modem columns take up too much space for as little text as they have.

Maybe this information would be better presented in running text? Bigpeteb (talk) 23:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The tables looks nice to me, but then again I have a large screen. But please, not a running text, tables are perfect for listing changes and especially in this case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.182.69.67 (talk) 23:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

3.0 Release date
Apple website states two dates for the 3.0 firmware.

17 June http://www.apple.com/iphone/softwareupdate/

18 June http://www.apple.com/sg/iphone/softwareupdate/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.173.91.75 (talk) 13:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Modem Firmware column
Why is this here what does it mean and what value does it add over the build number? I think it should be nuked. -- KelleyCook (talk) 16:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

People who want to unlock their iphone are interested in this. Newer baseband versions can't do this anymore. Petn-bofh (talk) 10:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Just thought I'd mention even with an iPhone 3G (not 3GS) my baseband with 3.1 is 05.11.07, not 05.11.04. St or ms cape  00:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Same here for my 3G. Looks like 05.11.07 is not limited to the 3GS. --StuffOfInterest (talk) 01:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

iPod touch 3.1/3.1.1
I just got a new 3rd gen 8GB touch today and it came with 3.1 installed while 3.1.1 was the version released for iPod touches. iTunes automatically offers to upgrade to 3.1.1 as expected. I dunno what the differences are between the two versions, but it should probably be listed for completeness. It has the same build number (7C144) as the iPhone 3.1 version. Any other thoughts on this? dennis (talk) 18:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

undisclosed changes in version history?
Should this page also denote undisclosed changes in version history, such as:

Some 3rd party video output cables no longer work in 3.0

Some 3rd party chargers/docks experience reduced functionality (lack of charging, or just don't work) in 3.1.2

Waxhell (talk) 16:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Article should be reversed
The newest firmware should be at the top. ★ Ffgamera ★ - My page! · Talk to me!· Contribs 07:39, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree as other Apple version pages have this same format. Pardthemonster (talk) 13:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Voice Control
Added for iPod Touch 3rd Generation (Only the 32/64GB editions) Voice Control Added accessibility features from iPhone 3GS, including VoiceOver

Does this mean an iPod Touch 2G running OS 3.1 wouldn't have those? 75.118.170.35 (talk) 17:03, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That is correct. An iPod Touch 2G with the 3.1 software does not have Voice Control and accessibility.-- Nerdy Science Dude :)  (✉ click here to talk to me) 23:55, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Baseband of iPhone 2g with 3.1.3 ?
When the original iPhone is updated what is the baseband? Does it update like the 3G and 3Gs? Or does it stay at 04.05.04_G? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.27.129 (talk) 06:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

OS 4.0 has been announced
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/apple-holding-iphone-os-4-event-april-8th/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.14.182 (talk) 18:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Why did they bother to note Playlist creation? you have always been able to create playlists the iphone 80.229.169.189 (talk) 18:09, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

--That's a good point. I am wondering that myself... gujamin (talk) 21:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Jailbreaking
Are notes about jailbreaking compatibility really on topic or relevant for this article? In my opinion it is not. JensRex (talk) 20:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, there hasn't been any announcement concerning jailbreaking for the new update.  N ERDY S CIENCE D UDE  (✉ message • changes) 21:57, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect
says Password w/ alphabet characters + numbers is new feature it is not, I have ben doing this FOREVER you just enable it with Apple's iPhone configuration Utility. PLEASE FIX THIS. I would be grateful —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.34.45 (talk) 00:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)