Talk:IPhone Dev Team

Notability
Before tagging with notability please discuss on talk page first.

Coverage of the iphone dev team has appeared in a significant number of news sites independent of the subject. Their blog is probably in the Top 10 results for iphone searches. The iphone itself is a noteable device. The economic impact of their work is significant in terms of phone purchasers who are then able to move to other providers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.50.123.64 (talk) 22:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Precisely why I tagged the article. In a rush at the time, I did not check the web for sources. hbdragon88 (talk) 23:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup

 * Removed names. It was trivial information and it's not our domain to list them.
 * Removed a lot of tech lingo. We are not a how-to guide.  We give information, but we do not tell people "use this on this phone, etc." It was also incomprehensible.
 * Used better sources. Do not use primary sources. There are plenty of third party sources, as the IP address notes up above.
 * Reduced links. We only need to link to the iPhone dev team page.  See WP:ELNO: TPB link is pretty much a search engine, the Twitter feed is social networking, and wikis are to be avoided. hbdragon88 (talk) 23:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Messup
JoseySmith (talk) 10:05, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Added names. I feel it's important to list the names of the team members as they are notable developers in the jailbroken iPhone community.


 * I disagree. It would be different if they were notable themselves, such as having their own Wikipedia article, but they're just anonymous (and legion) and it would be a list for the sake of being a list.  We can and should list members who have gained other notability, but not all of them, since they rotate and have little to say other than just being a bullet point. hbdragon88 (talk) 03:59, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I put the names there again. Hope someone doesnt delete them :S —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.180.191.102 (talk) 18:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Software
can anyone explain why the software section was removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.94.237 (talk) 20:10, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Since nobody seems to know why the software section was removed, I've copied and pasted it back in from an earlier version.
 * The first two entries are definitely notable: I can't vouch for the rest ... I'll leave it to others who know more about the subject to decide if all the entries deserve inclusion.
 * Redsn0w and ultrasn0w definitely need to be listed. ErkDemon (talk) 17:32, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Please. I came here looking for a succinct explanation of the different programmes the Dev Team releases. The old section was great because it even described which specific hardware the software worked with. --206.248.158.110 (talk) 11:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Legality
It says 'recently'. What does that mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.129.111 (talk) 13:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Undefined jargon
The term "baseband" is not defined in the article, nor in any another WP article, as far as I know. From the context, it appears to refer to the modem firmware. Does anyone want to take a crack at rewording it? If it were up to me, I would strike the word "baseband" throughout the article. Spiel496 (talk) 20:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup tag
Cleanup tag should probably be removed, as there are no dates on the page. I'm new to the whole wiki thing, but it might be reading the baseband numbers as dates (if wikipedia even uses an autocrawler for these things) 209.234.17.244 (talk) 09:05, 2 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm yeah, the dates aren't the important part anymore. It does need more references though. I'll fix it. Dreamyshade (talk) 11:25, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

iPhone Dev Team
Isnt the iPhone dev team called the Chronic Dev Team? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.93.42 (talk) 05:26, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

No, they're unrelated teams, and the iPhone Dev Team if anything has a much more notable history of releases and influence in the scene than the Chronic team does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.239.216.131 (talk) 00:10, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

merge redsn0w
There's hardly any contents here and we're not a repository of advertisement for release notes and software features. Currently, that's all there is to it over at standalone article. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 20:59, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Then expand it and remove the parts you think are advertising. - M0rphzone (talk) 21:02, 4 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose. This deletion discussion for redsn0w from 2010 may be useful to look at - it had some merge comments, but the result was keep. Both redsn0w and the iPhone Dev Team have grown in notability over the past two years; there's plenty of potential to fill out both articles nicely. (I happen to work for Cydia, which redsn0w installs by default when jailbreaking a device, but I don't think that merging these articles would adversely affect Cydia - the same information would still be available - so I believe I don't have significant COI here.) Dreamyshade (talk) 05:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Merge PwnageTool
Just starting a discussion section for the merge of PwnageTool into this article, proposed by Cantaloupe2. Cantaloupe2, can you provide some reasons? Are you more in favor of your proposed deletion (Articles for deletion/PwnageTool) or your proposed merge? Dreamyshade (talk) 05:28, 6 November 2012 (UTC)


 * either or. The notability are not mutually exclusive. When one is addressed, the other is almost always addressed.  So, I think that they go together if any. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 15:44, 6 November 2012 (UTC)