Talk:IPod Classic/Archive 2

iPod (original) has backlight.
The current version says it wasn't back lit. I have one, and it does have a backlight, so I checked the Apple site:

http://support.apple.com/kb/SP103

It says:

Display 2-inch (diagonal) liquid crystal display with white LED backlight —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.18.43.225 (talk) 03:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

"Hardware issues" issue
I suggest, before an edit war ensues, that we discuss this. My take on the matter is that we should try to improve it rather than erasing it. It is a nice section with some nice and some unverifiable info. We should make an effort to add refs before removing the section. Airplaneman talk 02:22, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, mine has some of the hardware issues, it's not like they are non-existant, just no good citation in that part.193.141.132.155 (talk) 10:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)G


 * I agree. My 6g iPod Classic has HORRIBLE responsiveness when trying to spin the wheel.  I have noticed that since day one, and I have heard similar stories from other.  Too bad WE can't be a source to site :P (174.34.208.209 (talk) 16:33, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

+<ref</inserting new codes
Iforggot my code —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.89.170.242 (talk) 07:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

The so called iPod Classic retronym
I know this has been discussed at great length in the past, but I think it deserves to be revisited. There is simply no reasonable reason to refer to the older models as "iPod Classic". The only supporting evidence as I recall it was a remark made by Steve Jobs at an Apple event. Since then, nothing coming from Apple has changed, and they only refer to 3 models of iPods as iPod Classic. See the |Identifying iPod models KB article. I really think that in order to avoid unnecessary confusion, that this should be reflected in this article. Rasher (talk) 16:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Fine. -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 20:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

More on "Hardware Issues"
I wrote the two sentences that currently state: "Since iTunes 9 was rolled out, many users with iPod Classics have reported a variety of compatibility issues, including not being able to sync or restore when using iTunes 9. In some cases, these users' iPods have been rendered inoperable after using iTunes 9." I don't know how long those sentences will remain, but I had four sources for this that were deemed unreliable by another editor and deleted. I believe that these references are indeed reliable and that the editor was being unncessarily harsh. My references were the following:. See below for full references. I myself am experiencing a conflict between my iPod Classic and iTunes 9 and am speaking from personal experience. Also, I am not alone. It appears that hundreds if not thousands of iPod Classic users are experiencing the same problem. Although this is not a valid Wikipedia reference, see here for anecdotal evidence of this major problem. That link is to a discussion board on an official Apple page. It is the most widely-viewed page in its topic area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.1.199 (talk • contribs) 01:59, November 30, 2009


 * Please read Verifiability and Reliable sources. Anonymous message boards are not reliable sources. News articles based on the content of anonymous message boards are not reliable sources.


 * If you want the Hardware issues section to remain in the article, please find and add reliable sources to the article.


 * At the end of this month if that section doesn't have reliable sources I intend to remove it. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 13:07, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I just posted this on Alistair's talk page and I would like to post it here as well for others to consider. I edited it slightly. Here it is: Would the community accept this as a source that Apple has admitted there are issues between iPod Classics and iTunes 9? I find it odd that many, many users are reporting issues between iPod Classics and iTunes 9, and yet it can't be mentioned on the Wikipedia page simply because the complaints occur on an anonymous forum (albeit one maintained by Apple). In my opinion, Wikipedia's standards are flawed: there should be some consideration given for overwhelming anecdotal evidence; at least editors should be able to mention that overwhelming anecdotal evidence exists. I'm curious: how would others explain the ancedotal evidence of so many users who are having conflicts between iTunes 9 and iPod Classics? MikeEcho2009 (talk) 21:06, 24 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry but I'm not going to comment on the anonymous forum and anecdotal evidence stuff, except to say please read Verifiability and Reliable sources.


 * On the subject of the recent ElectricPig entry. Can anyone tell us if they have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy? I've never heard of the site except for the links that MikeEcho (aka User:72.92.1.199 and User:72.92.11.69) previously posted. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 21:24, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

This page is a joke. The problem with the iPod Classic and iTunes is real. But because of some wikilawyering fanboy like AlistairMcMillan, it doesn't get included? Hey Alister, who made you the final arbiter on whether or not an online publication is or is not reliable? You get the final say by your implied power play with you being an admin? If the problem was only reported on one online forum, you might have a point. But it's all over the web. I came here to see if there was some explanation, only to find some Apple fanboy suppressing information by abusing his admin powers. Man, people are right. Wikipedia is a freaking joke for substance. And it's because of wikilawyering fanboys who wet their panties if one of their scared cows is criticized. Staggering... Now go ahead and block me for pointing out the truth... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.157.205 (talk) 13:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

RODD Do IPOD get Virusues == Pounds pricing & Pricing in general is pointless. ==

Is there any reason why the price of various iPods should be listed in English Pounds?

It's the thin end of the wedge. If we allow Pounds, then why not list, Roubles, Yens etc.

We'll end up with a price comparison chart using all the worlds currencies, that will be a mile long.

Besides which, the valuation between currencies fluctuates.

Pricing in general, adds nothing to the topic being discussed.

Its only of value as a historical marker, nothing more.

Aquafire (talk) Aquafire (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:04, 30 January 2010 (UTC).
 * Remove it per WP:PRICE -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 12:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi can any body help do IPODs get virus

7th generation?
Online retailers like Amazon and Walmart count the iPod classic as in its seventh generation already. Apparently the addition of the Genius feature was enough to set it apart as another generation. Also it serves as a differentiator between the 'fat' 160GB iPod classic from 2007 and the thinner 160GB iPod classic from 2009. --112.203.121.231 (talk) 03:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Special Edition Model
No Doubt special edition model is missing from Models section for 1st and 2nd gen models, per cited reference (http://www.macworld.com/article/8032/2002/12/ipod.html). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.68.30.2 (talk) 19:02, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Update to 7th generation
Amazon says the Ipod Classic 7th generation came out around September 2009 (that's when the reviews start), this can't possibly be true, with all the apple fanboys, for the most popular mp3 player sold can it? This article can't be a year and a half out of date. Darrellx (talk) 03:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-classic-Black-Generation-NEWEST/dp/B001F7AHOG

i pod classic
can you wire your i pod to your hifi without using a docking station?

What's a hifi? A vinyl record player? you probably mean a receiver? Yes, 1/8" jack to 3.5mm RCA stereo cable should so it. Is wikipedia the place for these types of queries? No. Darrellx (talk) 03:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Sound Quality
There's no mention of some of the most important hardware. I see everything external, screens and storage and batteries, but nothing about DACs and amps. I think there was one generation of iPod that had a decent DAC, and it's not the latest one. I don't know where to source the info though. edit: I think it's 4th and 5th that had the good ones. LieAfterLie (talk) 07:01, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

How about this? reviews.cnet.com/8301-12519_7-9968448-49.html It lost out to the Sandisk Clip series, but oh well. It looks pretty scientific. Darrellx (talk) 03:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Classic Retronym
This article is misleading - the 'retronym' of classic is not an Apple-provided naming convention and does not fit with their own naming scheme. iPods released prior to the sixth generation are not considered to be iPod classics according to Apple and it is incorrect to refer to them as such.

You can view this on Apple's support document, Identifying iPod models. This article will need to be modified to include the stipulation that only iPods later than sixth generation should posses the 'classic' suffix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icanedit2 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Overruled by Steve Jobs when he was introducing the sixth generation, apparently. Delusibeta (talk) 21:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

He referred to them as the classic iPods using classic as an adjective, not as part of the name, probably. Even if he didn't, is the assumption that Apple's site has contained this erroneous information through quite a few updates, and that the video (which is quite a bit older than the website) should be considered more relevant than recent word-of-Apple on the issue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.68.45.56 (talk) 01:08, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

1st gen for PC?
I have a PC-compatible 5 GB iPod with the mechanical scrolling wheel. The way the article is currently written, it would seem that no such thing ever existed. Is the article incorrect as written? Or was this product only available for a short time or in certain places? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.207.23 (talk) 22:55, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Best Mp3 player on Earth?
Supposedly the ipod Classic was voted the "Best MP3 player on Earth" at this website http: //btoe.com/lists/best-mp3-player-on-earth. Do we really care? It only got 20 votes, this smells of advertising to me.153.106.253.26 (talk) 15:30, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Needs to be removed. -- J — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.203.161.58 (talk) 19:16, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I removed it earlier today, before I saw this. It isn't notable -- Foetusized (talk) 00:47, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

iPod 5.5 Generation
There is also a iPod an iPod 5th Generation (Enhanced) http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US#ipodfifth2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skippingrock (talk • contribs) 20:31, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

250 GB hard drive in infobox
That's the only place its mentioned too. There are aftermarket kits available for upgrading the 30 GB 5th generation iPod to 120 GB and the 60 GB 5th generation iPod to 240 GB, but 240 GB is not 250 GB. --109.156.237.144 (talk) 22:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

The current generation is by far the most capacious iPod, with 160GB of storage.
This statement is inaccurate.

In fact, the version before the version before offered 80Gb and 160Gb versons. Then Apple replaced these with a 120Gb version and then reintroduced a 160Gb version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.126.192 (talk) 01:37, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

This still hasn't been changed for some reason! --109.156.237.144 (talk) 22:04, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Inconsistency
The device is referred to inconsistently throughout the article. Is it the "iPod classic" or the "iPod Classic"? I can change the name to be consistent myself, but I would like to get some sort of community consensus. "iPod classic" is the marketing term. Absolution3241 (talk) 10:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Generations missing
How come the article doesn't go beyond 6th generation? --Autismal (talk) 13:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Probably because there is no 7th generation iPod classic. --GSK ● talk ● evidence 15:51, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Then what is it that retailers were until recently advertising as a 7th Generation iPod Classic? Genuine question - I nearly bought one coz my 5th gen 60 Gb model is nearly full, but now the likes of Nozama are asking Silly Money and the Mega-Global Fruit Corporation of Cupertino, USAnia are asking for, well, something medieval. Mr Larrington (talk) 18:17, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

iPod G1
u should put in a photo of the original ipod don't remove this photo just put one in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Generic BobJoe (talk • contribs) 03:24, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

iPod 5G
I assert that "iPod 5G" is a popular shortening for iPod Touch (5th generation); the first ten hits Google, in fact, are just about the iPod Touch version. Therefore I believe the hatnote should stay at least. hbdragon88 (talk) 09:26, 26 August 2015 (UTC)