Talk:IPod Shuffle

Do not eat
We might want to add that apple suggests on their website: Do not eat iPod shuffle.. --Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason] 21:36, 2005 Jan 11 (UTC)


 * I noticed that too. Also, the uk version of the site is almost identical, but replaces the word "eat" with "chew".  Strange, no? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 22:58, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * 'Chew' makes more sense, seeing as it part of the chewing gum comparison.

Flickr site
Should I add this site to the links? --Mrmiscellanious 03:24, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Umm, please don't, although I do think that the criticisms of the iPod shuffle should be included in the article. I'm not going to do it myself just yet, to avoid the wrath of the cult of mac :) --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 18:07, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)


 * Why? I guarantee you, there is at least one criticing remark for every single product on the US market.  Not to mention, most of the criticisms for the shuffle as of right now are just mud-slinging in the business world against corporations.  It's nothing out of the ordinary.  --24.247.211.104 00:25, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Only supported by iTunes
Might be worth noting somewhere that unlike all of the other iPods, the Shuffle is currently supported *ONLY* by iTunes. No free software (such as gnupod or gtkpod) support the iPod Shuffle. This is likely to change in the near future, though. James Foster 00:07, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * gtkpod has iPod Shuffle support in 0.88. A.Kurtz 06:22, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Uhh....is the Chewing and eating thing really necessary? HereToHelp 00:37, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Third party non-free software supports the shuffle (adapod explorer - although I don't recommend it, it works but the GUI is needlessly dumb) Toby Douglass (talk) 18:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Hardware
A section on the hardware would be nice lmno 12:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Ride With Me?
Is this song Ride by The Vines?

Not quite sure what you mean, but if you're looking for help with identifying songs, song titles etc maybe you should ask that question on the entertainment section of the Wikipedia reference desk. Just scroll down to the bottom of Wikipedia's main page and you'll find the link there.Chevymontecarlo (talk) 09:50, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

The "Downloading music" section
I've removed the section below from the article. First of all, I don't think it is needed, since the iPod and iTunes Music Store articles already explain how to get music on the iPod. The article is about the iPod Shuffle, and this section is about the iPod in general. It also contains incorrect information: it doesn't mention the possibility of ripping music from original audio CDs, suggesting that if you don't have access to the iTunes Music Store you necessarily have to use another online store. The list of countries is largely unneeded, a link to iTunes Music Store would suffice. It is not encyclopedic (it should say "the user", not "you"). As I already said, I don't think it's needed, but if someone wants to add it back please address these issues first. Mushroom 15:48, 17 November 2005 (UTC)


 * The iPod relies on its bundled (free) iTunes software, which is the only way of being able to add songs to the Shuffle playlist. Unfortunately if you live outside the narrow list of 21 countries served by the iTunes store (see below), you cannot purchase any of the music, only listen to short samples. 


 * Other stores like eMusic will allow you to purchase MP3 format music, which you then have to add to your iTunes library by selecting the "Add Files" menu. Should you wish to listen to any music downloaded using the Windows Media format, you will have to "burn" these tunes to a CD, and then use the iTunes software to "rip" the CD to add these files to the iTunes library. Some loss of quality is likely to occur during this process.


 * You can download and listen to audio books, and then add them using the "Add Files" option. Sites like audible.com even offer a free iPod shuffle to new members who take advantage of a special offer limited to certain countries. Apple's iTunes store also offers some audio books, if you live in a country that is allowed to buy music from iTunes.


 * The countries served by iTunes is: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK, USA


 * No explanation is offered by Apple why South Africa, New Zealand, India, Hong Kong, Zimbabwe, Kenya or other English-speaking countries are excluded, even though Apple sells its products in most of these countries. Fortunately Podcasts are not restricted in this way.


 * The reason why ripping original CDs is not mentioned in the "Downloading Music" section is that it refers to downloaded music, not music from CDs. I will rewrite the portions that are relevant to the Shuffle, and contribute the rest as suggested. DonnEdwards 18 November 2005


 * This is not true. you can also put music on your iPod legally by ripping it from a CD. iPods can play any MP3 audio file, and there are plenty of non-itunes ways to put music on your ipod. -209.174.140.100 18:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's not true! You can even use it to put data on it. Songs are no problem at all. Well, maybe you're not using Linux as I do ;-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.4.204.91 (talk) 20:16, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

But guys, I have to share with you that I have came to Wikipedia for this very information you're discussing above: whether this beast can play my purchased music or not. (I'd never really buy anything as closed as Apple products but I was [un?]fortunate to win one. :)) I guess it is one of the most important aspects of a music player whether it can play the music of the owner, or just the ones purchased from a closed, vendor owned store. At least a hint should be in the article about this topic. (Well, I can find talk pages, but not everyone can.) -- grin (confess) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.36.11.8 (talk) 06:39, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Chewing
"The UK and Ireland site had a slightly reworded version: "Do not chew iPod shuffle," while some other versions of the site, such as the Canadian, French and German versions, made no mention of this. These warnings have since been removed."

Why have these warnings been removed? Damiancorrigan 01:05, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Why'd you need the warning? Did you chew up yours and it didn't work afterwards? Are you surprised? --Cuyaya 10:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Removal of definite article
From what I can see of Apple's pages, they never call it "the iPod shuffle"; they always refer to it as "iPod shuffle" (sans 'the'). I'm hardly a WP veteran, so what's policy on this? Should we follow suit, as with Editors and BALTIC, or stubbornly stick to proper English grammar in the face of marketing idiocy? Tyrhinis 22:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Proper English grammar should always take precidence over marketing nonsense.


 * User:Tyrhinis is correct. This time, the marketing nonsense of a multibillion-dollar American company is grammatically correct. - Mardus /talk 01:46, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

iPod Shuffle software
Would it be okay to list some software alternatives to iTunes for the Shuffle? There are a couple that I am aware of that work well. Jaberwocky6669 03:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Please read External links. Thanks. AlistairMcMillan 03:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

A while back I added this link to the article:

iPod Shuffle Unleashed iPod Shuffle without iTunes.

It was deemed as spam but I don't see how! The page is directly related to the ipod shuffle and the software is free. Nobody gains from the use of the software except for the user of the software. I really think it should be added back! Jaberwocky6669 03:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


 * i'd say that stuff belongs on the iTunes article if anywhere 12.154.72.130 18:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Windows Media Player works fine for the iPod shuffle model that doesn't have the shuffling switch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.151.162 (talk) 02:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Remove RAID section
So someone made a RAID array using a portable storage device? So what? Non encyclopaedic. Suggest delete. jamiemcc 22:26, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I concur. I have removed that section, as there is no need to list every single project a person has done with the iPod shuffle into this article. That experiment is solely his own, and does not contribute to the understanding of the iPod shuffle. People who wish to look for it should Google it instead. –-  kungming·2 | (Talk · Contact)  22:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Questions about the shuffle
Thanks. --Singkong2005 (t - c - WPID) 08:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Can music be transferred without using special software? (e.g. if I'm on a friend's computer and want to copy an MP3 file)
 * 2) Is it possible to set the shuffle to play in alphabetical order? (I'm thinking of listening to podcasts, where I want to listen to them in order - at least if it's alphabetical, it's easier to go forward/back till I find it.)

iPod shuffle "Green Lights of Death"
I tagged this section as non-NPOV for a few reasons:


 * It was added by a questionable user, 159.83.4.140, who might possibly be a vandal.
 * The same section was added to the iPod page, suggesting that 159.83.4.140 has a sort of anti-iPod mentality.
 * The section (before modifications) was decidedly anti-Apple and not conforming to existing Wikipedia Neutral-point-of-view policy.
 * Other than a single PC World article, no verification was given about the problem in question.

Would someone please clarify and make the said section more meaningful? Thank you. –-  kungming·2 | (Talk ·Contact) 22:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Apple has released a fix for this problem, and I have added that information to the article. BJ Nemeth 05:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you! =) –-  kungming·  2 | (Talk ·Contact) 05:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * This fix doesn't necessarily solve the problem. It didn't for me. Please see .  I switched from iTunes to Winamp with the plug-in and it works now, so I am convinced that iTunes 7 is the cause.  BirdValiant 01:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, what date should we put for the iPod shuffle 2.0 "Retail Availability"
I'm going with October. Yes, technically you can purchase the new version of the iPod shuffle but it will not ship until October. That probably is consider "pre-ordering" which is not the same as release date or the retail availability. In fact, Apple's own press release stated: The new iPod shuffle is expected to be available worldwide in October through the Apple Store® (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers for $79 (US). The reason why I had to discuss because someone reverted an anonymous contributor's edits regarding the October release date. --Oskar Mayer Nguyener 05:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd stick with September 12. That's technically the release date of the product. Retail availability is hard to peg down to an exact date because it won't be uniform across the board via web, stores, etc... JohnnyBGood    t   c  VIVA! 17:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Come to think of it. We should probably just change "retail availability" to "release date" The first gen wasn't available on January 11 either. JohnnyBGood    t   c  VIVA! 17:43, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

shouldn't all the sizes and weights be in metric units? I don't want to change this in case there's a whole set of rules for when to use what, but I guess that would make stuff a whole lot clearer for 90 percent of the world. thanks

Odd internal linking
I have noticed some odd internal linking on some phrases or symbols that aren't usually links, e.g. $ and fashion. Should the links be removed? --I80and 17:11, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No. The dollar one is to specify that it refers to USD not another country's "dollar". JohnnyBGood    t   c  VIVA! 20:12, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

New Shuffle
The new shuffle DOESN'T use a dock connector, the headphone jack doubles as a connector. "iPod shuffle’s headphone jack does double-duty as a dock connector." http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/features.html

Merge
I oppose this merger. The article should remain seperate. JohnnyBGood   t   c  VIVA! 16:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Please continue this at Talk:iPod models and software AlistairMcMillan 18:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Licensing
Could someone please put the correct license on the picture I uploaded. It's my first time uploading and I don't want it to get deleted--Coolkid602006 20:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Sound quality?
I heard that there was a special chip in the 1st version that made it's sound quality amazing. I also heard that that 2nd version does not have this chip. Is the sound quality still same? And if not, how bad is the difference?

"Clipped" on to Apple's Quicktime page
I was looking around Apple's page today and I noticed an iPod Shuffle actually clipped on to the "Watch the new TV ad" part of the page. Color varies.

AppleMacReporter (byte) 22:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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New colors are 3rd Generation
According to this page - http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/ipod/ - the new colors announced this month are actually classed as the 3rd generation iPod shuffle, not the 2nd generation. Should the article be changed to reflect this, or would we need more evidence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MamboJambo (talk • contribs) 21:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * As of today, the Apple support page is listing the 'new' iPod shuffle (4Gb) as 3rd Generation, so no change is necessary anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grymsdike (talk • contribs) 17:53, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Podcast support
should the article make note of the fact that the podcast support is limited? no auto update. --Fredrick day 22:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, the fact that podcasts are played in order of release (newest first) regardless of the order specified in iTunes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.41.22.42 (talk) 15:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Question
How many songs can an iPod shuffle store up to? Fangusu (talk) 14:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

How many songs can iPod shuffle hold?: Up to 120 songs on the 512 MB model and up to 240 songs on the 1 GB model (based on 128 kbps AAC files at 4 minutes per song). TransUtopian (talk) 07:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks for telling. Fangusu (talk) 02:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Capitalisation
Per MOS:TM, we should present the product name as "iPod Shuffle", not "iPod shuffle". There is examption for the initial "i" because it is a distinctive mark of the product and there's an exemption for improper caps in the first two letters, but "Shuffle" should be capitalised per standard title case. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Look at the very top of the referenced page: "Follow english standard formatting."  Nowhere in standard english does it require the second word to be capitalized.  Furthermore this has been discussed ad-nauseum before.  So I've reverted the change per conscious. -- KelleyCook (talk) 14:06, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Standard English Formatting Calls For Title Case In Titles. – xeno  ( talk ) 14:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * @KellyCook: Can you please provide links to these discussions? - 180.149.192.133 (talk) 23:56, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Move discussion
An archive of the discussion can be found at Talk:IPod Touch. 217.36.107.9 (talk) 15:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Arrangement
Just a thought, any reason the page is arranged the way it is? there leaves a huge gap.... if we switched 2 sections it would look better... Thanks! Stealth (talk)

weights
Would be nice a la the nano page to have weights in grams for the variants. Toby Douglass (talk) 18:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

some notes on 2nd gen
My first gen died two days ago. I have a nice pair of my own headphones, so I had to buy a second gen as a replacement.

I have noticed three particular things;

1. Sound quality is most definitely poorer. On the first gen, there is no hiss. Even down to the quietest volume level, all you hear is music (I use the etymotic er4p in-head headphones, which are about 150 UKP). On the second gen, you need to get the volune level up to about 6 to start hearing more music than hiss. Moreover, the music is somewhat less enjoyable - more flat, less dynamic, less vibrant. Not as bad as the nano (I tried the demo units in the store) - the nano was *BAD*. It was so lifeless. Listening was *not* enjoyable. I was thinking of getting one, but I wouldn't buy one now if you paid me.

2. I was able to play .mp4 files on my first gen, compressed using FAAC. These files DO NOT PLAY on the second gen ipod!

3. Where the unit uses a docking cable (USB to 3.5mm jack), if I want to recharge in places other than my home, I'd have to carry the docking cable with me. That sucks.

So all in all, 2nd gen sucks. It's a step down in a number of ways and a step up in no way at all.

Toby Douglass (talk) 16:48, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but unfortunately all of that qualifies as original research. (And possibly the no forum rule.)--HereToHelp (talk to me) 18:39, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Poor Phrasing
In the Second Generation section: The new model is less than half the size of the first generation model at 41.2 x 27.3 x 10.5 mm (1.62 x 1.07 x 0.41 in), and is of the iPod Radio Remote available for iPod Nanos and 5th generation iPods. I can't correct this, because I'm not sure what it should say. Anyone? Centrepull (talk) 17:16, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Auto archive
This talk page is getting rather long, is it OK to setup auto-archiving? -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 18:27, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
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Move discussion in progress
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HP
Is there any particular reason why this article doesn't mention that there was an HP-branded version of the original Shuffle, or is this just an oversight? –BMRR (talk) 17:31, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Gallery
Why is there a gallery dedicated to G2 and G4 ??? --17:47, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

to make ipod my self
i want to ask that i want to make ipod my self because i cant pay its hi cost... so plz help me..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.76.212 (talk) 05:00, 6 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Five Finger Discount. Or knock down a runner and yell out "finders, keepers!" and you're good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.232.191.16 (talk) 15:28, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * try www.howstuffworks.com --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:09, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

IPod picture
The click wheel is the incorrect color for the current model. Recommend that it be changed. Current model has black click wheel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TJH2000 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Mine has a white clicke wheel. Sorry. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:54, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Pictures
The section with pictures of the 2g/4g shuffle make the article look like a PR piece. Any suggestions? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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Ipod shuffle
How to on and off and use...? 136.158.10.29 (talk) 13:05, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

4th or 5th gen?
On the top picture, the caption says 4th gen, but when i click and look on the description it says 5th gen. The same thing on the table. What's going on?? J0e Bar+er (talk) 00:18, 9 December 2021 (UTC)