Talk:I (Cyrillic)

Lower-case Latin U
I have sometimes seen this letter written as what appears to me a conventional lower-case Latin 'u'. Is there some reason for this? -Chinju 22:53, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * That's how it is normally hand-written. See Cyrillic alphabet.  —Michael Z. 2005-10-5 23:03 Z 


 * Ah, thanks, that was quite informative. -Chinju 23:55, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I've seen it in 'u' form in italic cyrillic text, as well. Note War and Peace (1968 film): its title in italics changes и to и. T. S. Rice 02:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Math formula
I've seen it in a math formula, any idea what it could mean?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.94.246.45 (talk) 14:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Nine Inch Nails
Should there be a brief comment on using it to write NIИ?Adavies42 (talk) 16:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No. The band's logo simply reverses the final "N" of its initials to make a brand symbol that's its own mirror image. It has nothing to do with Cyrillic "И". --Thnidu (talk) 18:25, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Confusing opening
Currently the article begins like this:


 * I (И и; italics: И и ) is a letter ...

While there is more detail later on, at this stage it is totally confusing why the letters within the brackets should have a wildly different form from I, which is also the article title. There need to be some helpful words added. Unfortunately I do not know the best way to address this. 86.160.217.67 (talk) 01:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * This is consistent with the other articles on Cyrillic, in which the English-language name for the letter appears before the way the letter is written. This is, unfortunately, a bit confusing for vowels the two scripts have in common - а, э, и, о, у - which look the same in some cases but not in others.  If there's a "solution" to one of these, it should be consistent across all of them. Calbaer (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Article confuses Cyrillic "&#x0406;" and "И", and often uses Latin "I" for Cyrillic "&#x0406;"
EDITING IN PROGRESS 19:44, 13 October 2018 (UTC) These are for use in editing and will not go into the final comment:

(((Cyrillic: І і)))  U+0406, U+0456 &#x0406;

(((Latin: I i)))     U+0052, U+0072

(((И и)))            U+0480, U+0512

Latin I for Cyrillic "&#x0406;"
In many places the article uses Latin "I" when referring to the identical-looking Cyrillic letter "&#x0406;". I am correcting these; and to avoid further confusion I'm using the Unicode expression  instead of the character "&#x0406;" in editing the article as well as here in my Talk page post.


 * § History
 * Paragraph 1 The Cyrillic letter (И) was derived from the Greek letter Eta (Η η). This is why the earliest (up to the 13th century) shape of Cyrillic ⟨И⟩ was ⟨H⟩.
 * Paragraph 4 In the Early Cyrillic alphabet there was little or no distinction between the letter ⟨И⟩ and the letter ⟨&#x0406;⟩, which was derived from the Greek letter Iota (&Iota; ι).


 * § Form
 * Paragraph 1 Originally, Cyrillic ⟨И⟩ had the shape identical to the capital Greek letter Eta ⟨Η⟩. Later, the middle stroke was turned counterclockwise, resulting in the modern form resembling a mirrored capital Latin letter N ⟨N⟩ (this is why ⟨И⟩ is used in faux Cyrillic typography).

"Early" Cyrillic
"Н" and "I" are listed as being "early Cyrillic" ways of writing the letter, but these continued into the 18th century, e.g., http://silver-copeck.ru/8013/1717.html, where coins were struck with "РѠССIН" instead of "РОССИИ." Unfortunately, I fear that merely reading to letters might constitute WP:OR, so I hope someone has a good source for fixing this. Calbaer (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2019 (UTC)