Talk:I Kardia Sou Petra

Merger proposal

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of a proposed merger. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was not to merge as a sufficient amount of information has been added. Grk1011 (talk) 15:26, 13 July 2008 (UTC) This song just a radio single and all information could be transfered here in about two to three sentences. Grk1011 (talk) 13:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes it will be a radio single but also it will be a digital download so it will be charted.So they will be chart positions were are we going to put them????Panagiotis 2007 (talk) 17:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I dont know what's the problem with this page. This song is the second single from the brand new album and we need to add in this page the chart positions of this song. Apart from that there will be a videoclip for this song and we must add information and description of the video in that page. There is no limit for Wikipedia pages so we have the right to create as many pages as we want to. You may think that this page is useless because you are obviously not interested in this artist, but for people who are really interested in Helena Paparizou and her music these pages are very useful. Johnnyath (talk) 10:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The chart positions, ehh, they're not neccessary though, but a description of the video is not needed and is actually original research unless you have a source that describes it exactly how you do. There is no "right" to create a page, sure there's plenty of space, but that doesn't mean you should create an article about yourself. Also, Elena is one of my favorite artists and just a side note, where did you come from? The only edits you have made are here and its very suspicious that you changed your time from a min after panagiotis to another random time. Grk1011 (talk) 23:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Look the problem with this page is that it is for a radio single from the album. This differs from regular singles like Porta Gia Ton Ourano or Thelo for example which were released as digital download SEPARATE from the album, which then deserve their own page.  But the info about chart positions (only digital sales on official charts should really be included), and single summary can be included on Vrisko To Logo Na Zo no problem.  I am a huge fan of Paparizou too (met her too), but even I find this unnecessary as well as other pages that have been created just like this for some other Greek artists. I suggest you take a look at WP:Notability - Songs. Under this, this page doesnt really meet the notability standard. The digital sales charts are technically NOT national, as IFPI (which is the official charts in Greece) does not monitor them.  With the charts put aside, this article (As well as others just like this) really dont have alot to grow on.  It will just be stretched with information about the Music Video that isnt really needed to begin with.  Basically this article can be considered a Stub, which is not good.  And there is no real information you can add to it, to further it away from a stub.  I say merge. Greekboy (talk) 23:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * How do you know that the song won't be released as a download as Porta gia ton ourano. All her songs have been released as a download. Also i don't get it.Is there any rule which says that the radio singles should not have their pages. I will find you more songs which were not cd singles but only radio. Vandi's pages are only 5 lines i always try to put many info because they are usefulPanagiotis 2007 (talk) 09:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Look here Somebody to Love (Nelly Furtado song). This is just a radio single but nobody had a problem with this. Only you have problem guys
 * That page, as well as the ones you say, don't fall under the notability standard for wikipedia, as well as a stub. They should/will be merged or deleted.  And I did not say that it would not be released as a download.  I said that it will not be released as a SEPARATE digital EP from the album.  It will only be included as a download part of the album.  I have gotten confirmation for this by MPGreek who runs Sony's music store. But besides that, Radio singles CAN have their own page IF there is substantial information to warrant it.  In this case, as well as the examples that you have shown, that is not the case. You can see that from the notability like I provided above. Greekboy (talk) 07:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK so what kind of substantial information do you want? Panagiotis 2007 (talk) 10:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no substantial info to add and thats the problem. Also, provide a non-greek related example. Just because a page exists doesn't automatically make it right. That page is hardly ever edited and probably just fell through the cracks, avoiding deletion. Grk1011 (talk) 12:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Why don't you wait just a month? It is not so important article so we won't have complaints. Wait a few weeks and if this article still has only these info delete it.OK?Panagiotis 2007 (talk)
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