Talk:I Love Kanye/GA1

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Reviewer: HĐ (talk · contribs) 03:40, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Will be reviewing this very soon, HĐ (talk) 03:40, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't think lyricism is the correct term. "Lyrics" seems better
 * They mostly highlighted his self-awareness, though a few critics praised West's arrogance. these two are not contradicting claims, so I don't understand why "though" is used
 * ✅ for the above --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * number 14 and 48 numbers
 * Are you sure, because I've been told you can put "number" for two respective ones? --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I am pretty sure with my statement, HĐ (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --K. Peake 12:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Michael Jarrah non-notable names should be excluded
 * ✅ --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * "sweet Kanye." the full stop should be outside quotation marks because it's not a full sentence
 * I am confused about this, as you are advised on the page to not place punctuation inside quotes outside of full sentence but I have often been taught it is fine to do this on Wiki if you are consistent throughout the article; are you sure this is vital or is it optional?? --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No.. this has nothing to do with consistency, but rather a grammatical/syntax requirement. MOS:QUOTEMARKS specifies that quotation marks should be placed outside punctuation in case that quote is a full sentence, and should not if the quote is an attribution. Examples include: The report stated, "There was a 45% reduction in transmission rate." and The report observed "a 45% reduction in transmission rate". You can see two similar information, but different quotation mark usage. HĐ (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ but I have often done things incorrectly going by this MOS then, should I change the articles of mine where the quotation marks are placed outside punctuation for quotes that aren't full sentences? --K. Peake 12:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you have enough time then go for it. This matter is often more scrutinized if the article is brought to FAC though, so don't stress out, HĐ (talk) 15:05, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * though the album was a Tidal exclusive at the time → consider another linking word instead of "though" because the two clauses don't contradict each other
 * ✅ if this makes sense? --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * with them mostly praising the lyrical content "who mostly praised the lyrics" should be better
 * ✅ with changes --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * "also a rant that's also a barometer of public opinion that's also a wink." same issue; full stop should be outside the quotation marks unless it's a full sentence (you can see more at MOS:QUOTE). I can see that this is a recurring issue throughout the article. Try revise all of them
 * ✅ --K. Peake 12:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Try paraphrasing some reviews to avoid a WP:QUOTEFARM
 * ✅ --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Link Meek Mill in the file's caption
 * ✅ don't know how I forgot that --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * the fourth concert at The Forum in Inglewood do you mean the fourth concert in The Forum's history? Something like "the tour's fourth concert" should work
 * ✅ but I mean the fourth concert at The Forum on the tour, not the fourth concert of the tour --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The beer is an imperial porter with 8% alcohol by volume (ABV), and its label was inspired by the album's artwork this is WP:TRIVIA
 * ✅ but only removed the ABV since the album info is notable


 * The image was surrounded by the words "RIP Old Kanye", with Meek Mill using the caption to write that West's music "touched me in my cell" and quote certain lyrics from West's hit single "Can't Tell Me Nothing" (2007) in the caption, while he added the hashtags "#oldye" and "#wemissyoubro." another case of trivia
 * ❌ it is relevant because the "Old Kanye" part is what obviously references this song, plus the hashtag "#oldye" does too and the other info is of relevance since referencing West in connection --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Probably you'll find Trivial mentions useful. The hashtags have barely anything to do with the song; plus, cultural references are pretty much a norm especially for hip hop artists. This kind of things fit better in a gossip column or a pop culture blog, but this is an encyclopedia. As I was advised, be bold to cut anything that is of secondary importance related to the subject discussed, HĐ (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --K. Peake 12:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The Dramatics see MOS:THEMUSIC
 * I was thinking this too, but there article has no lowercase "The", or is that just an error of other editors? --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest follow the MOS guideline, HĐ (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --K. Peake 12:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * West and the DJ had previously collaborated on a remix of the single "Classic (Better Than I've Ever Been)" in 2007 how does this relate to this song/article?
 * Relates because it gives background info on West's involvement with the musician --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Explained above, HĐ (talk) 11:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This does not classify as trivial, since it gives brief info about West and the musician prior to the remix that links with it being created; nor does the other --K. Peake 12:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * a lick of piano unencyclopedic tone
 * ✅ --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Prior to the remix, TM88 had worked with West on the rapper's 2011 collaborative studio album Watch the Throne with Jay-Z. ditto
 * Addressed earlier --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Most of the issues with this article are around excessive use of quotes and remotely relevant information, such as other DJs/musicians' working relationships with Kanye West. Once my issues are addressed, I'm more than happy to pass this GAN, HĐ (talk) 08:53, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have replied above but have some questions, can you place this on hold though? --K. Peake 09:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Just the query about trivia for the musicians. --K. Peake 12:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Passing — HĐ (talk) 15:05, 13 December 2020 (UTC)