Talk:I Saw It

Deletion
I gave this page reliable sources, the story section doesn't need sources (just buy the manga :P), and I can't see what to do. I don't take offense, but I just wanna know. –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 17:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, the main problem of the article is that the story is too long..... maybe we should gut it a bit. –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 22:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The plot is beyond too long dearie. *grin* For a one-shot, it should be 200-300 words or so. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Dearie? (Uhhhh...okay) :P I though since it was a one-shot I could just write the whole thing....I didn't realize how long it would be..... : ( –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Just to make sure you realized I wasn't trying to be mean :) You do want to cover the major points of the plot, just avoid excessive details and using more words than necessary. Also, paragraphs are good :P -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I cut the plot a bit, it still needs some major work. I will do whatever it takes to make this article notable. –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 19:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The prod has been removed, it should not be re-added. If anyone feels it should still be deleted, please bring to WP:AFD, and I think this is the first time, ever, that a PROD has been removed by someone completely uninvolved only to be re-added by the -author-.  It usually happens the other way around.  --UsaSatsui (talk) 03:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Doh meant to do that myself earlier. I think Jump got confused on who can remove which deletion tas. Just to clarify, anyone can remove a CSD except the article's author though preference is that they only be removed by an administrator or experienced editors, with IP removals usually reverted and no restrictions on retagging. Anyone can remove a PROD for any reason (or none), including IPs, and once a PROD is removed, it is considered a contested deletion and the PROD can not be readded. Instead, one must use AfD for deletion.  No one is allowed to remove an AfD except the closing administrator. Removals are reverted on sign and such removals can be considered vandalism if repeated. As for this article, I've added a notability tag as it is still questioned. --  AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 03:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, well that's good.... I had a lot of things to do, I was worried it would get deleted. Is the plot too long still? –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 15:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is still a bit long. If it can be cut down some more, that would be good. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 16:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, but I might have to go to few places. We will try to shorten it. –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 17:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Article Name
Per WP:MOS-AM, this article should be using the official English release name. As I Saw It: The Atomic Bombing of Hiroshima: A Surivor's True Story is rather lengthy, I suggest we follow the ANN suggestion and use just the first part: I Saw It. Thoughts? -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 02:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "I Saw It" sounds good. :) WhisperToMe (talk) 02:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed, moving page. –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 03:57, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Image
I was looking for a image and so far this one is the best. I can't find a better image. –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 18:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Questions? Thoughts? –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 21:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Amazon doesn't have one? -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 00:55, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Suprisingly.....no.... ^_^ –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This would be the only thing at amazon....and it doesn't have an image. –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...I guess the linesonpaper one will have to be it...though I just realized, was this ever published in Japan in book form? The JA wiki doesn't seem to have an article on it either? -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 04:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not well known in Japan, America however....it's one of the first manga translated to English, which makes this have more notability in the U.S. Also that Lines on Paper website, I think is run by Art Spiegelman (source!). –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 04:40, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My bad, he made a reference to it in a review about Barefoot Gen. –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 04:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Вы действительно не хотеть бы эту секцию очень? Eh, Collect? –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 05:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh? -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 05:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was one of the first, but it wasn't the first so that doesn't increase its notability much. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 06:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It is, alongside Barefoot Gen, it's one out of two of the first titles released. Hahaha, I put some text through a Russian translator.....I was bored.... :D –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 06:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Should we download it, it would look fabulous! –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 18:38, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Barefoot Gen infobox
I noticed the Barefoot Gen infobox was deleted. Are spin-offs not supposed to be in infoboxes? beacuase that's what Barefoot Gen is. : ) You don't have to respond though...just if you don't want to. : ( –  J U M P G U R U  @ Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I removed it. :) They are related, but I can't see that they are the same "series" per say, not enough to put in an infobox. From other series based on/inspired by earlier works, I haven't seen that we've put the first one's infobox in the second one's article (or visa versa), but rather just mentioned it in the prose with the appropriate links. :) You could, though, maybe put it in the other infobox with a simple text link, but is it an actual "spin off" or was it just "inspired by"?-- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 02:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Plot revert
I though the plot needed to be shortened? How come a character section isn't needed? ~_- —  J U M P G U R U   ■TALK■ 23:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The plot does need shortened, but not quite that much :-P Also, a character is not needed because this is a single volume work. A character section would just be redundant to the plot, and it has no anime adaptation to worry about voices for. (and how goes BTW? Haven't heard from ya in awhile?) --  AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 00:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I thought if it had a character section, we could erase some of the plot, and give some of the infomation to the character section. : ) It would be redundant, if it was the same info as in the plot. See where i'm going? : ) How goes? I'll bring up a discussion on your talk. Remember? You had to archive our conversation. : ) —  J U M P G U R U   ■TALK■ 01:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * If this were a longer work, maybe, but in this case a single combined plot works best. The plot doesn't need a massive cut down, just tightened up. Its 591 words long...would be good to get it to maybe 400. Since there isn't much else to add to the article, it can't really support much more than that. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)