Talk:Ian Alexander (actor)

Preferring they/them
per question in summary; See from 4 minutes into Dawn Ennis interview on YouTube (transcribed (not in full) into Forbes interview) for Alexander's statements of preference at that time. Skip to 4:52 if you're in a hurry. 10:08, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

MOS Ethnicity
Per MOS:ETHNICITY "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability."; being Asian-American is highly relevant to Alexander's notability as an actor, advocate and activist. 10:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Except people like Sandra Oh, Amy Tan, and John Cho are not similarly described as "Asian-American author/actor" or "Asian-Canadian actor". Alexander's primary notability is as an actor... if there was no acting, there would be no notability. That doesn't mean of course we don't mention Alexander's ethnicity and/or advocacy, just that it's not appropriate for the lead.
 * Am also hoping you can provide a specific reference to your claim that Alexander prefers they/them over he/they or he/him... you added quite a few references but the written ones seem to back he/they. If the youtube interviews specify a they/them preference, it would be great if you could provide the time in the interview at which this is discussed so we can easily verify this. In the parts I watched, there was one interviewer who used they/them but there was no indication from Alexander that this was the preferred choice. Otherwise I would say the preponderance of sources indicate a clear he/they preference and we should go back to he/him pronouns per WP:STATUSQUO. —Joeyconnick (talk) 23:36, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * See the section above for times in the video reference you removed for the details I referenced.  02:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Also WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a valid argument.  02:24, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Right and if all I had done was point to other pages and said nothing else, that might be a relevant point, but again, the issue is that Alexander's notability stems from acting, not from being Asian-American. I referenced the other pages to demonstrate how other people notable for, say, acting or writing, and who are also Asian-American are not described as such up front in their articles' leads.
 * And sorry, I'm still unclear where in these videos Alexander is indicating a preference for they/them over he/they. — Joeyconnick (talk) 17:45, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Language Change
It's inappropriate to say "a transgender", just say "transgender". 2001:56A:FE10:7200:7069:7C9C:D7D0:DC6B (talk) 10:22, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done thanks  16:01, 24 March 2023 (UTC)