Talk:Ian Huntley

Prison sentence
I thought he was given a 50 year tariff. Osomec 28 June 2005 14:45 (UTC)

The 50 year tariff was given to Roy Whiting, the killer of Sarah Payne - who was sentenced 2 years before Huntley.

:Category:Pedophiles
I would contend that Ian Huntley does not belong in this category. He was accused, while in Grimsby, of sexual offences involving girls under the age of consent, but he was not convicted and age of consent violations do not mean that he is a paedophile. Paedophilia refers strictly to attraction to the pre-pubescent and the girls whom Huntley was accused of attacking were mostly 15 (one was 13). David | Talk 3 July 2005 14:02 (UTC)


 * He has been convicted of murdering two 10-year-old girls, no doubt for sexual motives. It's quite clear he fits the definition of a paedophile. Unfortunately it seems a revisionist anon is going round trying to remove the paedophile label everywhere - it's just a shame WP attracts his sort, jguk 3 July 2005 16:29 (UTC)


 * If there was 'no doubt', then it would be 'beyond reasonable doubt' and Huntley would have been convicted. He wasn't even charged with sexual offences in respect of Holly and Jessica. I haven't a clue as to what you mean by "it's quite clear he fits the definition of a paedophile". It's quite clear he abused girls who were below the age of consent but he does not appear to have had any interest in pre-pubescent girls. Perhaps a new section in WP:NOT should say "Wikipedia is not a British tabloid newspaper". David [[Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg|25px]] | Talk 3 July 2005 18:12 (UTC)


 * I know, it really is a shame people disagree with you, jguk. Hey, maybe it's for a reason! 24.224.153.40 3 July 2005 18:58 (UTC)


 * Clearly the matter has been resolved by using Category:Child sex offenders, but for future reference, the phrase would be, "hebephile and suspected pedophile". -Harmil 12:04, 15 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Ian Huntley may well have committed the terrible crime of sexual assault on the teenage girls. However it is the rule of law that everyone should be presumed innocent until otherwise proven.  As it was not proven that he sexually assaulted these teenaers, then he cannot be considered a peadophile, irrespective of the girls ages.

Context
Some context should be added. I'm from the U.S., and I actually had to click through to the town he's from to figure out what country this article was referring to! -Harmil 12:04, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

POV
I removed the comments on public money being used to defend Huntley and Carr, and paying for his imprisonment and her new identity; I moved the part on Carr living under a new identity to follow on from the part about her release from custody.

By juxtaposing the comments on Legal Aid and the Prison Service/probation with the amounts payable under Criminal Injuries Compensation a political point is clearly being made. It certainly was point of view: many people won't find anything at all problematic with public money being used to defend someone convicted of the most serious crime known, or money being spent to keep him locked up.

Mobile 'phone use
How Huntley was caught isn't mentioned in the article. Am I right in thinking that the police sent him a text message, then waited for him to pick it up and when he picked it up they were able to find him by triangulation? This was implied by the news reports but they were a bit vague. DavidFarmbrough 13:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I think you are referring to the triangulation of the location of one of the girls' phones which was switched off in the vicinity of Huntley's house half an hour after they were last seen (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cambridgeshire/3246111.stm). LP


 * Moreover he was "triangulated" when the victims' partially burned clothing was found stashed in a waste bin at his workplace, in an area for which he was responsible (as a maintenance worker).

Here is a good write up of the downfall of Huntley http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/ian_huntley/index.html it's inexcusable that they'd already searched those premises and missed the evidence, also it's amazing that he didn't properly dispose of the evidence. Gomez2002 13:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Early Life
There seems to be a lot in here about his family, pretty much "naming and shaming" his brother and ex-wife. Whilst his early life may be important, I don't really see how the identity of his family is, as they are not notable in themselves. Can we remove their names and just use their relationships?86.131.205.124 22:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
THIS NEEDS LOCKING!!!!! Vandalism every ware!!! 172.142.42.149

Last couple of versions have missed a slight change.

Paragraph reading " 25 year-old -scumbag-"

Name need changing
Ian Daz Sampson Huntley - Daz Sampson was Britains Eurovision entry in 2006.

Merge
This artricle should be merged with the Soham Murders as Ian Huntley is only notable gor the Soham Murders.--Lucy-marie 18:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I disagree. An individual article on Huntley is important in that it widens the scope of information on Wikipedia concerning the Soham Murders.--Edchilvers 20:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "widens the scope". In my opinion having seperate articles causes a fragmentation of information and prevents article quality from being improved.--Lucy-marie 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I am going to add my thoughts with saying the articles' should be merged as a major clean up of the two articles would occur if the two pages were merged and due to notability of the subjects being interlinked merging should occur.--Jjamesj 11:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Huntley's life behind bars as a national hate figure in the UK following the murders is notable in its own right and therefore he is worthy of an article. Peter Sutcliffe and Ian Brady both have articles of their own despite the fact that they are notable only for their crimes, why should Huntley be any different?--Edchilvers 17:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I have reverted the page. If there is some wiki rule about murders names being merged into their articles then feel free to inform the wikipedia directors, as they have a lot of pages to redirect 74.65.39.59 12:28, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Page was merged correctly if you want a split request one.--Lucy-marie (talk) 23:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Categorization
This is a redirect which should ultimately be handled by a full article. As such, categories and stub template have been added (per WP:RCAT and WP:TMR). &#8239;Senator2029 ➔ “Talk”&#8239; 10:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)