Talk:Ibiza/Archive 4

Tiesto?
I'm new to discussion pages so I'm sorry if I do this wrong, but should we mention Tiesto's album Searching For Sunrise: Ibiza in this page? I was surprised to read about the trance music but no Tiesto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TravisH997 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, Tiësto is big and he is big in Ibiza, but then so many musical artists have tributed Ibiza in their work. I haven't kept up with this scene the last several years, so I won't say either or. __meco (talk) 20:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Category:Islands of the Balearic Islands vs. Category:Ibiza
Category:Ibiza is itself a category within Category:Islands of the Balearic Islands. — Robert Greer (talk) 16:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Mentioning clubs
Within the opening section (3rd paragraph) there is a list of "famous" clubs in Ibiza. There's more to Ibiza than clubs occupied by drunk Brits, Spaniards and Italians. Plus clubs come and go meaning the information will quickly become outdated. Plus so what? Would you mention night clubs in the London article even though London's nightlife is bigger? Ibiza has history and beauty aside from where the yobs mingle and this article should make that clear.--217.203.136.121 (talk) 21:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Name
The own and official name of this island is EIVISSA, not Ibiza, that is the name imposed by Franco during the dictatorship.--Asfarer (talk) 08:19, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

In popular culture
Don't you think it should be noted that Nico died there in 1988? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.153.45.32 (talk) 22:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

no mentions to mallorquí as the language??
mallorquí or malloquín(spanish) is a dialect from catalan, but it´s certainly spoken there, not catalan, there are significative differences(not an expert but i heard so) cheers

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallorquín Karlkox (talk) 11:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Mallorquí obviously refers to the language in Mallorca, not Ibiza. --Jotamar (talk) 15:51, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

gay/lesbian ibiza
there isn't a single mention of ibiza's popularity for gays and lesbians. shouldn't there be as there is in the german article:

Auch ist die Insel wegen des liberalen Flairs ein bevorzugtes Reiseziel für Schwule und Lesben aus aller Welt.

Also, due to its liberal flair, the island is a preferred travel destination for gays and lesbians from the whole world.

more to the topic:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/07/15/travel-ibiza-time-for-a-return-by-gay-travelers/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.13.140.99 (talk) 09:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Failed template
Is that code at the top of the page a badly used template? Can anyone change it? Stephenj642 (talk) 14:44, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

This article needs changing name to only Official name: EIVISSA

 * The name Ibiza is very popular in English from Spanish. This island became well-known during Francoism, at that time Spain was centralised and didn't accept other official languages and home rule.
 * Ibiza is the name in English and Spanish, but only the official name is Eivissa (in Catalan, a language only spoken by less than 11 millions people, against two global languages English and Spanish).

You are going against the law in the Balearic Islands, the only official name is Eivissa, therefore, the top title should be Eivissa instead of wider common Ibiza in English or Spanish. 178.109.152.75 (talk) 23:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * This is the english language wikipedia, therefore we call things by their english names. For example, the article on what the locals call España is on this wikipedia called Spain. cya Coolug (talk) 17:33, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

"In popular culture" section
Regardless of it being called "in popular culture" This section is getting dangerously close to going against WP:TRIV; suggesting that it gets removed or sorted out. --Connelly90&#91;AlbaGuBràth&#93; (talk) 15:12, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Infobox
"In British English56, the name is usually pronounced the Spanish way"

Is this definitely true? I've been outside the UK now for nearly 10 years, but when I lived there most people tended to pronounce the initial letter I as a diphthong, with the initial syllable pronounced like the word "eye". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.35.220.163 (talk) 19:13, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

It's also been pronounced and spelt 'Ibeefa', as in the David Bowie song "Is There Life On Mars", which I believe describes a riotous night at an Ibiza dance club. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.216.24 (talk) 19:31, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Phoenician
Currently, the article starts:

Ibiza (Catalan: Eivissa [əjˈvisə]; Phoenician: אִיבּוֹסִים, Ibosim)

Is there some reason why the name of the island in a dead tongue is being given in the introduction?Ordinary Person (talk) 02:37, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No idea, removed it.--Cymru123 (talk) 18:40, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

It's Eivissa, not Ibiza
Well, I know that everywhere in the world the island is known as Ibiza, but the oficial name is EIVISSA, and you should respect it. In addition, the people in the island speak Catalan, and the name for the island in Catalan is EIVISSA. I don't think that English should adopt the Spanish name for the island meanwhile the name for the island is EIVISSA.

For example, the name in Catalan for Zaragoza (in Aragon) is Saragossa. But why do you respect the native toponym (Zaragoza) and you don't respect another native toponym (Eivissa)?

Thank you. --Polete 98 talk 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm honestly not trying to put Catalan down and promote the Spanish version of the name. It's just that the convention we use is to use the name most commonly used in English, which in this case is also the Spanish name. There may well be other articles where the common English name is the same as the Catalan one and the Spanish version is only mentioned in passing.


 * Please feel free to expand on the Catalan history of the island within the article, but I'm afraid that the Spanish name should be used to stop confusion in readers whose native language is English. --GraemeL (talk) 20:14, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Place-names may be different in different languages. A name in another language (an "exonym") is proper usage. Even within one country, names differ between languages: a man of Brussels will call his home town Bruxelles when he speaks French and Brussel when he speaks Flemish. The folk of Switzerland have at least three names for every town and for their own country: no one form is any more "correct" and there is no "True Name"; they are all correct in the relevant language.

Wikipedia is not vehicle for propaganda and it is not a mechanism for changing existing usage nor eliminating variety.

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tourism
i trie to asdd a new section on tourism and tourist advie but someone deleted it hbcs i think bcos i didnt really add any content as TBH i had a few drinks but a new section would be good. im addingh ti to this page instead as someonbe deleted it when i put oit on the article page t if someone has somehting to add maybe they could dtart the section and add it? nd if its a duccess on this age it owuld probably be on other pages like ty day put on aa recard and see who dan es LOL> i just knoticed its something wikipedia doesn t really have yeta dn i think its a great idea which would bamek the wiki even better tho its greate ALReady !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by FedUpWithAds (talk • contribs) 04:18, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * FedUpWithAds is blocked. David notMD (talk) 14:51, 19 February 2022 (UTC)