Talk:Ibogaine/Archives/2021

Antagonist to reserpine?
Chapter "Interactions": "Ibogaine is an antagonist to reserpine", the source cited describes this very vaguely and doesn't offer any explanation. I think this statement on its own has some potential to cause harm, especially if someone experimenting takes it at face value and uses Reserpine/Ibogaine to reverse the effects of Ibogaine/Reserpine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.115.46.225 (talk) 19:23, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Untitled
Maybe someone should remove a few of the templates at the end of the page; half of the page at the moment is nothing more than a bunch of template boxes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.145.9 (talk) 09:55, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

= In Popular culture == The claim that Hunter S Thompson was the first to write about ibogaine, looks to me to be original research and pretty much non-neutral. Can we really make the claim, that no one anywhere in the world wrote about iboga before him? I have serious doubts that the claim is true. Unless someone can provide a source that shows that Thompson was the first person in the world to write about it, I'm going to delete the sentence and perhaps the whole section (it's a trivia and fan cruft magnet as is). TheRingess (talk) 23:48, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

There was also an episode of CSI that focused heavily on Ibogaine. Not only did it predate the LO:SVU, much more of the episode focused on the drug as a treatment for chronic addiction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.118.109 (talk) 03:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Answer: Iboga is known since centuries. People claiming being "the first" to speak/write about it can't be taken seriously. ? – now: Traditional use of the root of iboga for medicinal and ceremonial purposes in Gabon. The word iboga (or eboghe) derives from the Tsogo verb boghaga ("to care for“) 1864: Dr. Griffon Du Bellay, a navy surgeon reports traditional medicinal uses as inebriating, tonic, aphrodisiac and promoting sleeplessness 1885: Father Henri Leu reports ceremonial use as a potent philter that promote a deep sleep “obsessed by uninterrupted dreams taken as actual events” 1889: Henry Baillon establish the genus Tabernanthe at the National History Museum of Paris from an Iboga sample brought back from Gabon by Du Bellay 68.67.211.194 (talk) 19:20, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

=Is this a proper noun or a common noun?== I ask, because it appears in the article in both capitalized and lowercased form. Which should it be? Nightscream (talk) 13:59, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

=Historical use of psychedelics for treatment of addiction== Sorry I added a note to the main page without checking if I was logged in, the note was simply to the effect that this type of treatment is not unique to Ibogaine and was originally tried with LSD. Let me know if there are any questions or problems with my edit Drunkenduncan (talk) 13:59, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

= in Popular culture ==

I've removed a commercial link and a link to a "forum" that is completely empty of any new information or users, which looks like it serves to promote ibogaworld a commercial ibogaine provider, both of these are recent links, despite the very obvious and visible mandate to stop adding external links to the link section.

I've also restored the in popular culture links that have been present in the article at one time or another but seem to have been arbitrarily removed by a user named the ringess. Either have a In popular culture section, or don't. What was removed makes no particular sense in context of the article. Spectrum13 (talk) 10:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

= harm reduction ==

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=Inconsistency == a κ-opioid antagonist in pharmacodynamics but a κ-opioid agonist in metabolites

since the first has a citation, we should change the second. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sboosali (talk • contribs) 15:33 & :34, 29 November 2012

= Secondary Studies == Does anyone know of a secondary study into the use of Ibogaine for adddiction? I saw a primry on the NIH website but that was from 1997; wouldn't research have been conducted in countries like Canada where it is less restricted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CensoredScribe (talk • contribs) 23:57, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * There's a lot of info here but it's collapsed from view at the bottom. Viriditas (talk) 10:17, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

The article cited for ibogaine being a kappa agonist does not show this. Catamai (talk) 23:34, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

= Hallucinogen or not? ==

The intro calls it a hallucinogen, then later in the article it explictly states "It is not a hallucinogen." Which is it?

Popular opinion of medical documentation on the internet, along with statements found on web sites of treatment centers world-wide support the idea that it is a hallucinogen. For example, TheDetoxDrug.com on along with information that correlates with the main article, also mentions people experiencing dream like visions (this is on a low dose used in detox treatment (e.g. cocaine, heroine, opiates in general), so the assumption is that higher doses will result in hallucinations).


 * I would argue that it is not a hallucinogen, at least not if one adheres to the medial definition of the word 'hallucination'; that is, perceptions of objects which do not physically exist but which the user cannot distinguish from objects that do exist . Psychedelic (that is, tryptamine & phenethylamine compounds) visuals are easily distinguishable from physical reality.  Any references to ibogaine being a 'hallucinogen' are merely a misuse of the word; it's a psychedelic tryptamine, like all 5-HT agonists are.


 * Also, while some people consider 'psychedelics' to be a sub-category of 'hallucinogens', I would argue against this. Psychedelics are a category unto themselves.


 * I'd like to change the first paragraph from "A hallucinogen with both psychedelic and dissociative properties" to "A psychedelic with dissociative properties", as well as the psychoactive effects section. Does anybody have a problem with this?
 * (Psychonaut25 - 13375p34k / C0n7r1b5 11:59 PM EST, 20 September 2013 (UTC))

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 * Me1atwiki (talk) 16:01, 18 July 2014 (UTC)yes, i have a problem with this. this is a discussion. i haven't made any change, haven't figured out the process of editing.my questions are: why is medical the authority on hallucinations? what are perceptions? what are objects? what is physical?? you haven't cited a source. so why do i believe you?Me1atwiki (talk) 16:01, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

= Ibogaine in Norway ==

Your article says that "Ibogaine is unregulated in Norway.[62]", but according to your reference (https://lovdata.no/dokument/SF/forskrift/2013-02-14-199), all tryptamines are illegal. Look at the bottom of the page.84.210.54.80 (talk) 19:57, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

= Article Needs Expert Review ==

In the pharmacokinetics and phamacodynamics sections, ibogaine is listed both as a k and mu opioid agonist and and antagonist in various places. Research needs to be done to figure out which is accurate, it can't be both.cteckerman (talk) 18:25, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I believe in the pharmacodynamics section it is discussing noribogaine, an ibogaine metabolite. This entire article needs help though. Sizeofint (talk) 18:50, 27 May 2015 (UTC)