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Multiple Issues / News Release / Peacock
I noticed that this page has been flagged for the above. I made an attempt to clean it up -- deleting peacock words and moving the sections around. I will leave the flags up to give other WP editors a chance to weigh in! Thx. Patricia Meadows (talk) 15:06, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I will assume there's no objection and will remove the tags. (Done in good faith.) :-) Patricia Meadows (talk) 04:34, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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Several of the paragraphs in the History section in the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai (see below) appear copied/plagiarized from the Mount Sinai Hospital (Manhattan) wiki page. I propose including this information in either the hospital or medical school page, but not both. Most of the info, with the exception of the paragraph about the shooting of the dean, pertain more to the hospital, so maybe this information should be deleted from the medical school page? Also, the paragraph about the medical school dean contains a lot of superfluous information about his education which is not relevant to the shooting incident. Can other Wikipedians fix these issues?


 * Writing for The Boston Globe on 14 October 2007, Scott Allen reported the issue of patient abuse and problems with human resources management at Mount Sinai by Dr. Jack M. Gorman who was Department Chairman of Psychiatry at Mount Sinai. Allen stated that; "... officials at McLean learned that Gorman had, like so many patients at the renowned psychiatric hospital, attempted suicide. But their initial sympathy for a sick man turned to horror when they learned, from a legal document delivered in mid-May, why he had taken such a desperate measure. The married father of two had brought a shameful secret with him to Massachusetts: He had engaged in a long-term sexual relationship with a New York patient... Gorman, 55, inspired great hope when McLean and Partners announced that they had lured him away from New York City's Mount Sinai School of Medicine in October 2005... It was Gorman's decision to contact the New York Board of Professional Medical Conduct that finally brought the episode to public attention. Earlier this month, the board finally acted on what Gorman told them, posting on its website that his medical license had been indefinitely suspended for 'inappropriate sexual contact' with a patient."[12]


 * The issue of human resources management between nurses and doctors at Mount Sinai hospital was reported by Jose Martinez on April 20, 2010 in the New York Daily News. As stated by Martinez: "A Catholic nurse was forced to assist in an abortion at Mount Sinai Medical Center over her strenuous objections, a lawsuit filed Friday charges. Catherina Cenzon-DeCarlo, who works in the operating room at the Manhattan hospital, contends that her boss ordered her to assist in the May 2009 abortion of a 22-week-old fetus or face charges of 'insubordination and patient abandonment.'"[13]


 * In January 2013 David L. Reich was the first openly gay medical doctor named Interim President of Mount Sinai Hospital;[14] in October of the same year he was named President.[15][16] On November 24, 2002, The New York Times reported the commitment ceremony of Reich to Keith Loren Marran stating that: "Keith Loren Marran Jr. and Dr. David Louis Reich are to celebrate their partnership today with a commitment ceremony at the Bloom Ballroom in Manhattan. Judge Paul G. Feinman of New York City Civil Court in Manhattan will officiate."[14]


 * James McKinley writing for The New York Times reported abuse issue investigations dealing with human resources management at Mount Sinai Hospital on March 24, 2016 when a doctor was brought to court for abuse of several patients. As stated by McKinley: "A former doctor at Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan was arraigned on Thursday on charges of sexually abusing four women who came into the emergency room there, touching their breasts for no medical reason and, in one case, drugging, groping and masturbating on a patient. The physician, Dr. David H. Newman, pleaded not guilty before Justice Michael J. Obus in State Supreme Court in Manhattan to one count of first-degree sexual abuse and four counts of third-degree sexual abuse. He remains free on bail. 'Four young women who came to the hospital for medical treatment were sexually abused by the very doctor entrusted with their care,' the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., said in a statement."[17]


 * Dennis S. Charney, the current Dean of Mount Sinai, graduated from medical school at Penn State in 1977 and completed his residency in psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine. A fellowship in biological psychiatry was completed at the Connecticut Medical Health Center. Charney was shot and wounded as he left a deli in his hometown of Chappaqua, New York, early on the morning of August 29, 2016. Hengjun Chao, a former Mount Sinai faculty member who had been fired for cause in 2010, was arrested and charged with attempted murder.[18][19] According the New York Times, "A former faculty member at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine who had been fired shot the school’s dean outside a popular deli in Chappaqua, N.Y., on Monday, apparently in an act of revenge, the authorities said... Mount Sinai officials confirmed that the dean, Dr. Dennis S. Charney, 65, of Chappaqua, was one of the victims. The name of the other victim was not released. 'This is an extremely disturbing event,' Dr. Kenneth L. Davis, the chief executive of the Mount Sinai Health System, said in a statement. 'Fortunately, Dr. Charney’s injuries are not life-threatening, and we expect he will fully recover.'"[18] Chao was convicted of attempted second degree murder and two other charges in June 2017. Charney made a public appearance at the sentencing hearing as a public service to request that a full term sentence of thirty years be applied to this case which the court largely acceded to grant.[20]

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Notable Alumni
Hi, I am requesting the following addition to notable alumni:


 * Darrick E. Antell, Assistant Clinical Professor of Surgery and Plastic Surgeon, whose research on twins and aging was featured in the the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of Natural History Jessicakhani (talk) 19:12, 8 November 2018 (UTC)JessicaKhani
 * advertisement. No. Jytdog (talk) 19:16, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Restoring 2019 Lawsuit Section
On 21 April, 2020, IP 72.80.99.165  (whose only contributions are to this page) deleted a section of the page, stating it wasn't relevant to the school - given the school and specific school faculty were named in the lawsuit documented, it would seem clear that it's relevant. But beyond my own opinion on the subject, the lawsuit's entry onto this page was discussed on BLP back when Cadbury333 first wrote it up, in terms of how much detail from the case was justified, in relation to the size and scope of this article. I've gone through a year's worth of edits and as best I can tell, other than a few small tweaks, the section hadn't been changed significantly since the BLP reached a consensus on exactly what the text of that section would contain. It shouldn't have been deleted without at least some discussion on the Talk page.

So I'm restoring this section, as it was at the time the IP deleted it - though I'm also going to find the most recent updates on the case, to see if any additions are justified. Please do not delete the section again without some editor discussion. There's been some great cleanup of this article, stripping out legal matters that really were just hospital-related and PR stuff off of the school's website. It's a lot more NPOV than it was a few years ago, with this removal being a notable exception. CleverTitania (talk) 12:11, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for re-adding - special:diff/1120278330/1123742741 - yes seems relevant.  Bluerasberry   (talk)  14:46, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't entirely agree with this edit. It's usually not a good idea to add information to an article about a lawsuit that has been filed unless there has been a resolution of some kind that indicates that the lawsuit was meaningful and had a lasting impact on the subject. Anyone can file a lawsuit for any reason so we usually have to wait for a resolution to determine if the lawsuit was meaningful and impactful. This particular lawsuit was filed in 2019 and it's now (near the end of) 2022 - has this resulted in any substantive change or action? Was it successful in any way? Has anyone followed up on it with further information? ElKevbo (talk) 17:16, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Anyone can file a lawsuit but only journalists can clear the story with their editors to get it published in reliable sources, which is the publication standard that Wikipedia requires. The source we are citing in this case is Science (journal), which is the publication of AAAS, which itself is an org with US$100 mil / year revenue. If anyone has a doubt to express about Science's standing to call out discrimination claims in research, then I want to hear them.
 * The closest policy we have on the matter is Notability_(people), which is for individuals. In this case we have a large institution which can respond to the journalists whenever they like, and so they do not get the protections we offer to random individuals without a prior public presence. If you have other ideas I will talk it through with you but this seems in order to me.  Bluerasberry   (talk)  20:37, 25 November 2022 (UTC)