Talk:Ice Age (2002 film)

Article Title
This entry should be Ice Age (movie). If you doubt this, look at "What links here." A linked reference to "Ice Age" in text normally links to the Ice Age, not an animated feature. Wetman 20:08, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Then those links should be fixed, not the title of this article. There is no reason for this page to have a disambiguation when it is not necessary. Article titles are case-sensitive (except for the first letter), so we might as well make use of it. — Timwi 13:33, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * What doesn't make sense is to have the primary title not related to the main event, but a B movie about it. It needs to be moved back to Ice Age (film)or Ice Age (movie). I'll change it if no one else does. Pollinator 15:33, Aug 5, 2004 (UTC)

Box Office and Critical Reception
I'd like to know how this movie did in the box office, aswell, I'd like to know what critics thought of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.15.120 (talk) 17:11, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Scrat Inside the Plot
Scrat should be written on the plot because he appears couple of times in the movie and please write him in the plot he's written in the Ice Age: The Meltdown page plot and if Scrat is written in the plot please don't delete it.

Production on Ice Age
http://am.animatedviews.com/IceAge.html#Facts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:2500:F000:447:57B0:AC18:351E (talk) 10:34, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Please keep this article at Ice Age. There no good reason for Thanks. — Timwi 02:29, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * 1) adding an unnessary disambiguation parenthesis to the title
 * 2) redirecting users to a place they probably didn't want to go to
 * 3) encouraging wrong linking


 * This belongs at Ice Age (movie) to avoid confusion with the real event. I proposed the change, waited some time, and no one objected. I am going to move it back within the next few days. It seems to be a case of confusion of entertainment with reality. Pollinator 02:35, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)


 * (William M. Connolley 08:29, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)) Argh! What is going on. I assert (on the grounds that reality gets precedence over fiction) that:


 * Ice Age (movie) describes the movie
 * Ice age is the glaciological/climatological phenomenom
 * Ice Age redirects to Ice age


 * Thank you for this sensible move. Wetman 08:37, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * AMEN! Pollinator 12:01, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)


 * and I've changed it so that is so.


 * (ps: thanks - I think - to Wetman for fixing my fix properly...)


 * If you are looking for an article about the ice age, "Ice Age" is not "spelled" right - it's "Ice age". Agree? (WMC: yes) Then there is only one article with the title "Ice Age" - the one about the movie.


 * If you really consider these ambiguous, I think the disambiguation is wrong. "Ice Age" should NOT redirect to "Ice age". It should either redirect to "Ice Age (movie)", or link to both.


 * (William M. Connolley 09:09, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)) Yes, thats poss - Ice Age could well be a disambig page instead of redir to Ice age.


 * Personally, I agree with Timwi: "Ice Age" should contain the article about the movie. You could make "See also"-links to solve the actual problem. I just made such a link from Junit to JUnit, as I think many people make that spelling error.


 * (William M. Connolley 09:09, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)) I strongly disagree: Ice Age can't be the movie page. What next? "Jesus of Nazareth" becomes a link to the movie, with a little note on it saying "oh and by the way..."? But I agree Ice Age could be disambig.
 * Myplacedk 08:48, 2004 Aug 31 (UTC)

The Ice Age in adult discussion is the most recent glaciation, the Wisconsinian or whatever, one of the sequences of ice ages that characterize the Pleistocene. Ice Age (in italics) is an animated film geared for pre-teens. Have some perspective! Wetman 09:16, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * If the article about glaciation was titled "Ice Age", this discussion would not exist. But it's not, so it does. Are you suggesting renaming the glaciatin article? In that case, it would be very simple: The glaciation article would contain a disambiguation link to "Ice Age (movie)" (or similar). Myplacedk 09:27, 2004 Aug 31 (UTC)

Homosexuality???
I dont remember these references, where in the film was this? Raemie 17:18, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

There was some minor refrences in the movie, like the brontotheres (the rhinos, long horns Brontothere, butterfly-shaped horns, Embolotherium) where eating with each other and Sid ruined it all by stepping into their "salad" with a foot covered in Glyptodon poop. The two brontotheres appear to hang out with each other a lot, but I don't think that they have a crush on eachother, just pals. GBA 05:13, 6 May 2006 (UTC)


 * For crying out loud, did it occur to anyone that those bozos were probably brothers? And I ought to know.  I've got two brothers myself!  Ben 10 11:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it does say it was "conservative christians" who raised the fuss...did they ever make any sense? :P Takeshi357 18:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I dont think anyone has anything against the movie about evolution or homosexuality. Its all just a big joke in the movie. I've never heard anyone having a beef against it for that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.89.104 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 10 May 2006

I don't know who you are. From now on, try to add four ~s at the end of your comment GBA 04:45, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Here is a quote from the movie: Sid:Acctually, this baby belongs to us. Diego: Us? You two are a bit of and odd couple." Even though Manny objected to the whole "us" thing, they were definetly prodding at that.


 * This is ridiculous. Do you know what "joke" is? :P  SSPecter ☎ ♠  15:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC).

Requirements
This article will need the film poster like most film articles.

Sid
Played by grammy winning actor Noah Michael Rael. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.118.226.11 (talk) 18:40, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Sid is too small and weak to be a Megalonyx, thus dictating that he is of a subspecies which is about the size of a pig.

There were other Jefferson ground sloths smaller than Megalonyx in North America, like Megalonyx, for example. The movie don't says that Sid is a Megalonyx any time.

I don't think Sid is a Megalonyx at all, he either has to be a three-toed sloth or a smaller relative like Megalonyx. GBA 05:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think he's not a modern sloth, thank you. He must be a small species of ground sloth.61.230.78.58 12:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I have it! He is a Hapalops! He is about three or four feet tall and he sleeps in a tree so he must be!KnowledgeLord 21:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Merging the Manny Article
Just to say I've really expanded the article on manny, so it's no longer a stub and (hopefully) no longer needs to be merged with the main ice age (film) article. --Sidthesloth 15:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

just say no

Inaccuracies
How is calling the saber tooths 'tiger's an inaccuracy? It may be improper in many places, but this is an American film and the name saber tooth cat is never heard here. BioTube 22:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

'Cause Smilodons are not tigers. There's no such thing as a saber-tooth tiger. Dora Nichov 09:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm telling you the way it works here where the film was made. So what if they aren't technically tigers? Saber-toothed cat just isn't used here. Why don't we start saying aluminium and labour are incorrect? BioTube 21:10, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I suppose it's all right if you call them saber-tooth tigers, but not just TIGERS. That's completely different. Dora Nichov 09:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Given the setting, what else would they be talking about? BioTube 19:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? Dora Nichov 07:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The film doesn't say that humans are incapible of speech, I think Deigo's quote was due to the animals not understanding human speech.(AndrewAnorak 10:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC))

Huh? Dora Nichov 01:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

When Diego chases Nadia and Roshan near the waterfall is clearly seen that Diego walks over the water without any problem, but in the sequel film is obviously stated that Diego is affraid of be in contact with water. That goof sure was not consider since if Nadia realizes that she would be safe within the river, then she didn't need to jump into the waterfall. This shoud be included into the inaccuracies of this film (or in the sequel, maybe). Manuel Cuevas 17:26, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not a factual inaccuracy. Dora Nichov 10:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Fanatics for technical nomenclature (as that is what it is--there is no question of "accuracy" involved) ought to give a moment's thought to the millions of human beings who do not inhabit their world. There are millions of people who know what a saber-toothed tiger is: they saw pictures of them in books at school--who have never heard the word "smilodon" and will never remember it. An article for the general public ought to be written in language the general public understands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.135.244.61 (talk) 12:50, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Some Minor Character Names
Roshan (the baby)
 * Hi! I just want to let you know that I know the names of some characters who's names weren't mentioned but were said in books.

Runar (Roshan's father)

Nadia (Roshan's mother)

Dab (the head dodo)

Oscar (a smilodon from Soto's pack)

Zeke (a high voiced smilodon from Soto's pack)

Lenny (a fat smilodon from Soto's pack)

Jennifer (the purple sloth that Sid and Roshan mud bathed with)

Rachel (the orange sloth that Sid and Roshan mud bathed with)

Mmm, don't forget Eddie, the glypodont.

Don't you recall?

"So where's Eddie?"

"Oh, he said something about being on the verge of an evoultionary breakthrough"

--KnowledgeLord 03:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Introduction
I don't believe this section makes much sense:
 * "Ice Age was rated PG by the MPAA, but is re-rated PG-13 by the MPAA."

Should it be:
 * "Ice Age was originally rated PG by the MPAA, but was later re-rated as a PG-13."

A reference would be good. —  M o v i e J u n k i e  Talk! 16:32, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Innacuracies?
The movie has talking mammoths for crying out loud. Having an 'innacuracies' section is illogical. Lots42 21:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * This discussion took place at Over the Hedge (film) - as was mentioned in the talk pages, something cannot be inaccurate from reality if it is not meant to be an imitation of reality in the first place. In these movies, you generally have cartoon physics and trying to list every single difference would take up a massive article.    Trying to explain inaccuracies between the film and cartoon physics is just being silly - as a cartoon, they don't need to have a consistent rulebook.
 * Also, a trivia section by another name is still a trivia section. It attracts unimportant facts and takes focus away from the article - possibly spoiling the humour in the film. --Sigma 7 13:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Now we have a different Innacuracies section, which I still say is not needed. I doubt that the characters care or comprehend what the humans refer to them as. Lots42 (talk) 07:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

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Scientific Names
Will you people PLEASE stop fighting over the scientific names for the creatures. If you two or three or however many there are keep reverting each other, I by god will call in nuetral parties. Lots42 (talk) 08:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Lenny - a different species?
According to this article, the "tiger" called Lenny is a Homotherium while the other "tigers" (Diego, Soto, etc.) are Smilodon. I think all these characters belonged to the same species (either Homotherium or Smilodon, in the movie neither scientific name is mentioned) - Don golgi (talk) 20:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * To see the logic behind this, I suggest a look to the official guide for the movie. The guide says, and I quote:

"He's actually a rare scimitar cat, so don't call him a saber-toothed tiger-it might make him mad." There it is. --KnowledgeLord (talk) 06:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I am confused
"Extinct by the time the movie was set"? There was no time the movie was set. It was just a generic time. Lots42 (talk) 12:43, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, in the end, Scrat melts out of the block of ice "20,000 years later", which is supposedly the present day. - Don golgi (talk) 13:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Supposedly Lots42 (talk) 16:47, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

A Mammoth Christmas Special
There's a lock on the article, so couldn't add info on "Ice Age: A Mammoth Christmas Special" to Sequels section. 25 minutes. Bought at Wal-Mart today. Has preview of Ice Age: Continental Drift and a Music Video. Haven't read a review. --Sniperscout (talk) 23:37, 23 December 2011 (UTC) Found info "Ice Age: A Mammoth Christmas" @ article Ice Age (film series)"  Think article here should add @ top Sequels section: --Sniperscout (talk) 15:02, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Scrat
The Scrat subplot is nearly as long as the rest of the film plot section! I'm pressed for time or I'd edit it... Lots42 (talk) 22:56, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 July 2012
Please change the wording for Ice Age Continental Drift it states that the movie had not been released while in reality it has been

Marbar26 (talk) 19:15, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done RudolfRed (talk) 19:34, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

needs editing badly
The synopsis of the movie drifts awkwardly between past tense and present tense, and three times uses "there" to mean "their". There are also at least three dangling participles. Take a look at this passage:

As Soto closes in for the kill on Manfred, Diego leaps and stops Soto, who wounds Diego in the process. Manfred, in vengeance, knocks Soto into a rock wall, causing several sharp icicles to fall on Soto, killing him. Manfred and Sid go up to an injured Diego...

So far all in the present tense, in normal story-telling fashion.

...and where to to go on with out them....

Something is missing here.

...So Manfred and Sid went to return Roshan to his father and happily reunited.

Now suddenly we're using the past tense. Also, "and happily reunited" does not make sense.

...After saying goodbye to Rosha, Diego recovers and rejoins Manfred and Sid...

Now we are back to using the present tense. Also, here is one of those dangling participles: it suggests that Diego has just said goodbye to Rosha, whereas in fact it is Manfred and Sid who have done so.

Just a few lines to demonstrate how much editing this article needs.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.135.244.61 (talk) 12:41, 15 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree, so I have reverted to the version before those errors were added. I think it is better now.--Carniolus (talk) 13:10, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Box Office Figures Mis-wording
The box office figures in this article are listed as "$176,387,405 million" and "$383,257,136 million", which appears to be an error, as that would indicate a box office figure of over $383 trillion. Removal of the word "million" from both instances would solve this. CentrallyProcessed (talk) 17:06, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅--Carniolus (talk) 20:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Ice Age (film) → Ice Age (2002 film) – There is more than one film titled Ice Age with an article - Ice Age (1975 film). So, the year must also be disambiguated per WP:NCF which states "not use partial disambiguation such as Titanic (film) when more than one film needs to be disambiguated."  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 19:26, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Support: If another film exists by the same name, then a move is inevitable.--Jionpedia ✉  19:38, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - but User:Taylor Trescott and User:Jionpedia might like to note that Contact (film) vs Contact (short film) and Contact (animated short film) as well as Tommy (film) vs Tommy (1931 film) are currently at odds with WP:NCF. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:00, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:NCF BOVINEBOY 2008 12:27, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Support: If Spider-Man (film) could be moved to Spider-Man (2002 film) and Iron Man (film) to Iron Man (2008 film), then this may as well be moved. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:NCF.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 17:19, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Strong support on usage per WP:NCF. ApprenticeFan  work 10:20, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Home Media/Edit request 12/26/2013
A home media section about Ice Age needs to be added to the main artical. Also, when did the movie come out onto VHS and DVD?--24.147.1.197 (talk) 16:51, 26 December 2013 (UTC)Jacob Chesley
 * ✅--Carniolus (talk) 11:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Edited lead section
I edited a few errors in the lead section to try to better the article as a whole. Emilymerkel3 (talk) 19:42, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Repeated paragraph
Part of the Plot section repeats itself needlessly. '''Meanwhile, Soto, the leader of a Smilodon pride wants revenge on a group of humans by eating the chief's baby son, Roshan, alive. Soto leads a raid on the human camp, during which Roshan's mother is separated from the rest and jumps down a waterfall when cornered by Soto's lieutenant, Diego. For his failure, Diego is sent to find and retrieve the baby.'''

'''Meanwhile, Soto, the leader of a Smilodon pride wants revenge on a group of humans by eating the chief's baby son, Roshan, alive. Soto leads a raid on the human camp, during which Roshan's mother is separated from the rest and jumps down a waterfall when cornered by Soto's lieutenant, Diego. For his failure, Diego is sent to find and retrieve the baby. Sid and Manny spot Roshan and his mother near the lake, having survived her plunge.'''

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2015
Please change "except" to "accept" in the following sentence: The drama was also dropped from the film because 20th Century Fox would only except it as a comedy.

Have root (talk) 19:26, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Cannolis (talk) 19:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Confusion regarding Manny's background.
In the 'Plot' section, it has been said that Manny, while looking at the cave drawings, remembers how his wife and child were killed in an attack by humans. But is there any material to prove that the two mammoths in question were in fact his wife and child? Even the video suggests that the two mammoths killed were the adult ones (they are shown shrieking in pain). Probably it is more likely that Manny was the smaller mammal; his parents were killed. Logic says that hunter-gatherers are more likely to kill larger animals for feeding themselves and their families. Besides, in Ice Age:Dawn At The Dinosaurs, Manny does not have a clue what should be done when Ellie goes into labour and prepares to deliver a baby. This would not have been the case had he already fathered a child before. So, an appropriate edit should probably be made. TheGoodIndian (talk) 19:02, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

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Misadventures
These are important scenes in the film due to comic relief, like the dodo fight and the ice slides. They should be mentioned. SpongeBobRulesBarneyDrools (talk) 03:43, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2018
66.41.59.242 (talk) 02:13, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  ♪♫Al  ucard   16♫♪  04:15, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Ice Age Baby ( Roshan )
This would be the worst thing ever everyone do to this baby, first why does everyone hates ice age baby ? And two why does everyone wants kills him ? I am confused Alvaro ivan daniswara (talk) 09:38, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Moving
Ice Age (2002 film) → Ice Age (film) This is far more well known than some 1975 German film. Cars 3 is far more well known than the Troma movie of the same name, so it's called Cars 3 not Cars 3 (2017 film) MightyArms (talk) 00:43, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2020
Jim Cummings Billy Crystal Harrison Ford and Idris Elba 2001:BB6:A6E3:EE58:5C85:BFC3:AF33:4A24 (talk) 19:20, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
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The game theory
Im a ninga 156.192.191.236 (talk) 16:07, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Wrong Metacritic score
This movie currently has a "generally favorable" score of 61/100 on Metacritic, not a 60. Corbyn Collins (talk) 05:34, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2023
In the "Directed by" field, please remove Carlos Saldanha, as Chris Wedge is the only person who receives a "Directed by" credit in the movie. While Saldanha is credited as "Co-Director", in animated films, that is apparently considered a subordinate position that isn't included in the infobox, and not a case of two equal directors, like the Coen Brothers are commonly. For example, on the page for Toy Story 2, it says "it was directed by John Lasseter, co-directed by Ash Brannon and Lee Unkrich", but since Lassester was the only person who received the "Directed by" and Brannon and Unkrich only received the credit of "Co-Director", Lasseter is the only person listed in the article "Directed by" field. 98.228.137.44 (talk) 00:44, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Snowmanonahoe (talk) 13:25, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Source for Sid specifically being based on Megalonyx?
Can anybody find a reliable source for this claim? I can't find a source that pre-dates its introduction into the Wikipedia article. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)