Talk:Ice pick

February 2005
I tried to fix the article from its previous BJAODN-worthy state. Really, I did. But I just couldn't find enough interesting information about ice picks to flesh it out. CaptainSpam 01:31, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Function
Why would people want to pick at ice? --Menchi 07:35, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, they came in handy in the days before frost-free refrigerators. People would use them to dislodge the ice in the freezer. 67.162.166.143 06:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Trotsky
I removed the references to Trotsky's assassination, as the Leon Trotsky, ice axe and Ramon Mercader pages all agree he was killed with an ice axe, not pick. XbenX 19:29, 8 July 2005 (UTC)

RE: Trotsky's murder
Sorry, failed to read this before I wrote that in again. D'oh. Anyway, the ice-axe does seem a little more realistic, given Trotsky's background.


 * I added a sentence in stating explicitly that it was an ice axe instead, since this is obviously a common misconception. --David Edgar 10:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Icepick lobotomies
It's my understanding that Walter Freeman did not actually hammer in common icepicks with a rubber mallet. His "trans-orbital lobotomies" were done with a similar surgical instrument. It was crude, imprecise and done without anesthesia, but it was not a real "icepick." Could someone possibly confirm and amend the article, hopefully with a reference? cprompt 23:39, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I added some info from Freeman's wikipage --Master Forcide 02:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I know it's a bit late for discussion, but according to the documentary The Lobotomist which aired on PBS last night, his first transorbital lobotomies were done using the actual icepick straight from his kitchen. He did, as the article says, use other, more-proper tools on down the line, but his first ones were indeed done using a regular icepick straight from his kitchen. Gorovich (talk) 05:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Fiction
Do we really need to list every movie, video game, and book that mentions an ice pick as a weapon or tool? Unless there is something special about the appearance of the ice pick in the game/movie/book. Endless with little or no value to the article. --75.20.202.214 07:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


 * But it is associated with Basic Instinct, maybe that is the only one that is worth mentioning. Jay Pegg (talk) 15:18, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Jason's first kill
I'm just gonna add that Jason Voorhees' first on-screen kill was with an icepick 24.177.99.49 00:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Ping-pong paddle?!?!
I can't see any use for this section in its current format.

It has no citations, it is opinionated, and off the topic.

I have deleted it. I think that unless it is substantially altered, it shouldn't be in the article.

Thanks.

S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diggers (talk • contribs) 14:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree. I want it resolved permanently MrXow, so please stop adding it back unless if you can add sources. Alanz006 (talk) 23:48, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Removed this from the page, POV
The "Patients" are almost always reduced to a vegetable state by this sadic procedure.The documentary "Psychiatry: An Industry of Death" is a good source of information of this particular use of the ice pick, as well as revealing most other crimes against humanity being committed on a daily basis by psychiatric terrorists. Dr.Freeman never spent a single day in prison for the murders he committed throughout his life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.97.110.61 (talk) 22:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Addition of a "Use in Medicine," Section and "Characteristics"
I added a section for the "Ice Pick Lobotomy," as it was procedure that was done hundreds of times throughout the mid 20th century. An ice pick from Walter Freeman's kitchen was reportedly used. Some discussion above mentions that another instrument that looked like an ice pick was used. However, a Vice article notes that an ice pick from Freeman's kitchen was used initially.

I also added some characteristics of the ice pick. This includes how the steel bar is shaped and what kind of wood is used in the handle. Along with the picture, this will help the viewer visualize what an ice pick looks like.

I combined the first two sentences of the definition so that it is more concise and clear. JamesMauney (talk) 13:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Revisions 7/12/22
I added more detail to the definition such as the uses and materials used to make the ice pick. I created a new heading for history and moved some information to that heading. I added more background for how the ice pick was originally used as well as why it is not used as much today. I added more information on the bent tip and the material for the handle in the characteristics tab. I added the uses in bartending tab and wrote a brief summary of its usage. I added some more information regarding icepick lobotomies such as the amount of deaths as well as a time frame under the uses in medicine tab. Hdjessup1 (talk) 18:26, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

List of (non-fictional) murders
Do we really need a list of non-notable murder cases involving an ice-pick? Seems to be WP:MISCELLANY. Muzilon (talk) 13:02, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Lead section missing
This article has no lead section. Hence, I tagged it. 2A02:AB04:2C2:E300:A90B:40F9:721F:1D44 (talk) 07:24, 20 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Added lead section. Do not revert. 2601:645:4500:31B0:5CE3:8F07:FBF7:8DA4 (talk) 00:26, 1 September 2022 (UTC)