Talk:Ichigeki Sacchu!! HoiHoi-san

Merge
Two pages that contain the same information.
 * Support:
 * 1) Squilibob 14:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Snarfies 05:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Merging the two sounds good. since they're similar from the introduction with a slight misusage in the Ichigeki Sachuu Hoihoi-san, but that can be fixed. The Hoihoi section is very small, and very similar to the introduction of the other one as said before. And Ichigeki Sachuu Hoihoi-san has more information which will be useful. But make sure to use the introduction of Hoihoi-san & with the information about the game and all of that stuff from Ichigeki Sachuu Hoihoi-san.


 * Oppose:

Cleanup?
Someone slapped up a cleanup tag but forgot to explain exactly what remains to be cleaned. If there is no answer within a week I propose the cleanup concludes by cleaning out the cleanup tag. --19:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. --21:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Things the article needs
The following is a cut-paste from my and a user's talk page on the assessment of this article as B-Class and what needs to be done to promote it

History shows you put in that Ichigeki Sacchu!! HoiHoi-san is rated B-class. According to the criteria means that
 * "it has significant gaps or missing elements or references, needs substantial editing for English language usage and/or clarity, balance of content, or contains other policy problems such as copyright, Neutral Point Of View (NPOV) or No Original Research (NOR)."

If you could be more specific I might be able to do something. As it stands now with no specifics it is hard to do something constructive and adding just for adding will typically attact more negative comments.

Also it is unclear to me just who did the grading and where the log of that discussion can be found. --21:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC) (posted by User:85.164.113.244)
 * Hi. An article may be assessed by an individual up to B-class without consent. If you wish to get an article to A-class or to Good article class then the article needs to be peer reviewed and mutually agreed upon to be promoted to that assessment. I did rate the article. I did not leave a reason as explained, up to B-class, a person does not have to. I do believe that the Hoi-Hoi article needs a lot of attention as there is a few problems at the moment:
 * Who created Hoi-Hoi?
 * Infobox is incomplete, which company developed the PS2 game?
 * What age level can play the game, ie what are the ratings in each english speaking country?
 * Information is repeated in the first two sections of the article
 * There are no inline references / reliable sources
 * There are six section titles that start with "The". Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings) states that "The" should be omitted from titles.
 * Manual of Style (dates and numbers) isn't applied for dates.
 * Use of second person language should be reworded for example: Completing a level gives you credits... should really be Completing a level awards the player credits...
 * Many terms that should be linked aren't. For example Third-person shooter, Collateral damage.
 * If you want to submit the article for peer review to get it rated higher than B then many of those things need to be fixed. --Squilibob 00:29, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

It looks like only the rating of the game remains as an outstanding issue. I don't think you need to link collateral damage, though. Seriously? No-one knows what that means? Silverstarseven (talk) 19:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Page split?
I think the article needs to be split into 2 articles: one for the manga and one for the game. Basically all that would need to be done is an article for the game. Ichigeki Sacchu!! HoiHoi-san (video game) could work. Most manga games have articles, I don't see why this shouldn't be an exception. RobJ1981 05:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That sounds fine, but it's not really a page split. An Anime and manga article that is based on a game will have a short history of the game in its content, which this page does. As per Summary style there's no rationale to split this article up - however, the creation of an article for just the game is a good idea. Though it would need to be expanded beyond the summary that is in this article. I think that the current information about the history of the game needs to stay in this article regardless of the creation of a new game-only article. --Squilibob 05:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Stealthy Demotion
Under the headline Page split?, RobJ1981 downgraded the article from class B to class Start. It is worth noting that: Note that in fact there already was an assessment for which there is a class B status.
 * the headline is misleading
 * there is no evidence of any review performed
 * there is no assessment of the article presented
 * there is no reason given for the demotion.

Thus I conclude the assessment process is broken. --22:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Synopsis
Raw notes to be edited in.

Nighttime, typewritten text:
 * In the year 20XX...
 * Insects have become immune to every kind of insect spray...
 * Super tiny extermination robots were developed by the Japanese industry

Scene cuts to someone sleeping on a futon and then to a dormant Hoihoi-san robot that proceeds to start up for the hunt of the night, stepping out of her recharging pedestal and into her squeeky booties. Scene cuts to Combat-san, who identifies "enemy action" and decides to "eliminate immediately". Hoihoi-san meanwhile opens a high rate of fire on targeted pests and finished by shooting a [[bell] that goes ding! Apparently nobody wakes up. At this point Combat-san is about to shoot Hoihoi-san but suffers a debilitating system error and goes down in smoke before causing harm.

''Scene switches to daytime view of the pharmacy where Kimiko-chan is working which is full of robots and related accessories. She reminisces about she buying her own Hoihoi-san but that she could not stomach the carnage she woke up to after a night of insect extermination. This has given her a bad impression about Hoihoi-san cutomers.'' At this point Aburatsubo-kun appears, looking to buy a "beamrifle-unit 2" to his Combat-san which sets him back a substantial amount of money.

''Again the scene switches to night time, the story repeating the first scene. This time however the smoke causes Hoihoi-san to detect it and initiate fire extinguising mode, that is shooting Combat-san with a water gun which in turn causes a larger explosion disturbing nearby dogs. And again, incredulously, nobody wakes up.''

And again we return to the pharmacy at daytime with Aburatsubo-kun returning his water soaked defective Combat-san. ''At this point Owner brings in Mu-chan. Later in a park Mu-chan shows Kimiko-chan her Hoihoi-san and Combat-san dolls in summer festival kimono. The dolls dissapear on their own and interrupt the conversation between Kimiko-chan and Mu-chan with heavy gunplay as they fight it out in a rubbish bin.'' Ending typewritten text:
 * The war between insects and man continues... (-_-);

Running time including credits: 10:55. Studio appears to be Madhouse (company) but many are credited. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.90.147.119 (talk) 23:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

Agreed. It does look very much like Madhouse's style (compare Blue Drop and Gunslinger Girl V1). Silverstarseven (talk) 17:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Review of manga
http://mangacast.net/?p=807 review by Brian of Ichigeki Sacchu!! HoiHoi-san.

Yeah, it's a real review, not a blog. And it says that HoiHoi, the manga from Infinity, not the game nor the OVA, is a parody.

That's in case someone starts arguing that it's OR for this article to say that Hoihoi-san is satiric.

It's not a bad article, IMO.

Timothy Perper (talk) 16:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you can escape the satire in the OVA. Otakus are lampooned pretty obviously (pharmacy scene). The very idea of combatting bugs with miniature dolls complete with high-powered artillery is pretty over-the-top. And squeaky boots? C'mon. No-one's going to take that seriously, are they?

Silverstarseven (talk) 17:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Contradiction
Information on the page is contradictory.

Information boxes show a release date for the game earlier than the manga. Then further down the page, there is a claim that the manga came first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.128.139.183 (talk) 05:21, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Models
Kotobukiya has released a line of model kits based upon the dolls. They're 1/1 scale. So far, the 3 main dolls have been released(in at least 2 versions for each). The transforming motorcycle Oboro has also been released. Both as a stand-alone kit for use with the regular(black outfit/red hair) Pest-X San, and combined with Byakuya Pest-X San(White outfit, violet hair), as Oboro-Eiga(transforms into a set of mecha legs. May be combined with the regular Oboro and Byakuya Pest-X San to give her a set of powered armour).218.212.228.245 (talk) 02:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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