Talk:Ideal (TV series)

Series 2 question & Series 5 information/citation
Anyone know of a tracklist for the second series?, been looking around and cant find anything as im after a couple of the tunes from it.

You could try the new fan forum at

http://www.idealforum.co.uk/

There is a lot of good knowledge about the Ideal soundtracks there & there is talk about building an episode by episode tracklisting.

The site also contains messages/emails from Graham Duff re Series 4 DVD & Series 5

"Hi,

Just letting you know that the IDEAL 4 DVD has a provisional release date of April 13th.

Also we sign off on the editing and sound mixing for series 5 next week. Although there's still no transmission date fixed for it."

March 10, 2009 DorsetBear (talk) 16:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Spelling issue?
In this article there are some parts where Nicki's character's name is spelt 'Nikki' which is incorrect. I have changed this as the character's name is actually spelt 'Nicki'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.142.141.123 (talk) 23:50, 5 September 2006


 * Her name is Nikki 82.23.235.59 19:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Closing credits for Series 1 show "Nicki". --Redrose64 (talk) 21:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * as do those for series 2 & 3 --Redrose64 (talk) 22:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Trivia!
WE NEED TRIVIA, THERES A TON IN THE ARTICLE 82.23.235.59 18:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Derrick isn't a main character?
Why isn't Derrick on the character list? He's certainly in a lot of the episodes.
 * Please sign your comments with four tildas (~)

Nor China

 * China is very important in the first season, less so in the second, and is back again in the third
 * chrisboote 12:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Series 3 DVD?

 * Whens it out?
 * chrisboote 14:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

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Style
I've done a big edit to improve the grammar and punctuation, and to get rid of some of the chatty statements: sentences such as "Probably the number one chav in Manchester, Jenny is also easily the thickest resident of the city - dopey does not begin to describe how dumb she is!" might be fine for a fanzine or blog, but are not really appropriate for an encyclopedia. Dom Kaos (talk) 13:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Leaving the flat
I'm fairly sure we never see moz leave the flat (other than going to the other flats in the building). The only time we see this happen is the end of series 5 episode 6, when we get an exterior shot of moz leaving. Perhaps this should be mentioned?58.169.214.60 (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * As far as I am aware, the whole series has been in or around the flat. There have been episodes which have featured the adjoining flats, the hallway and stairs, the attic, and in one episode on the roof, and also leaning out of the window.  People are seen coming up and going down the stairs, but the dowsntairs has not been shown, and this is the first time I have seen the outside of the building, or Moz outside the house.  From what I remember, Moz has talked about going out, but I do not recall any episode where he has actually made to leave or return to the flat.  I may be wrong.  His gear is always delivered, and his clients always collect, he usually cohabits with someone, and I have no recollection of him going shopping or nipping down the pub.  It is like he is agoraphobic.  Is this the first time out of the flat since he first moved in as a student (covered in the previous series)?  I may be wrong, of course.  I am intrigued to see if he manages to make it through the gate - if not then there could be another season - of so, it is hard to see how there would be, as the basis of the series would be over - Moz the dealer in his flat. Mish (just an editor) (talk) 13:39, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Not sure any of this is notable - off the top of my head, I can't actually think of a single TV sitcom which didn't take place within a specific few rooms: even Friends, which presumably had a big budget, was filmed predominantly on a handful of sets. If a sitcom appeared which didn't take place on only a few sets, that would probably be worth mentioning in its WP article - but to mention that Ideal is all set in the same few rooms seems a bit like overkill to me ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 19:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Only saw 'Friends' a couple of times, so I can't comment on that, not sure I've watched any US sitcoms more than a couple of times apart from Will & Grace, so I can't say I'd noticed this. Will & Grace featured other apartments, and restaurants. In the UK, The Royle Family did only take place in the lounge and kitchen, The Office in an office, Are You being Served? in a department store, and I don't recall any scenes in Rising Damp set outside the house; probably also the case with Men Behaving Badly and Steptoe and Son.  But, not the case for Fawlty Towers, Reggie Perrin, Last of the Summer Wine, Vicar of Dibley, Saxondale, Some Mothers do Ave 'Em, Hancock's Half Hour, Dad's Army, The Good Life, Only Fools and Horses, Green Wing, The League of Gentlemen, Blackadder, Spaced, 'Allo 'Allo.  I'm sure Till Death us do Part had scenes in the pub, and The Likely Lads had scenes outside the house, I'm sure.  The Young Ones had at least one scene shot in the Cock of the North pub in Bristol, as well them appearing on University Challenge and taking a holiday on a bus in the final episode.   Apart from the UK, Kath and Kim (Australia) has scenes outside the house, and so did Father Ted (Ireland).  So, it maybe there is a difference between US & other sitcoms?

I'm sure that people that live in the flat in Friends come and go, like they have on the couple of episodes on Cheers I watched. Mish (just an editor) (talk) 22:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Scratch that - the whole reasoning behind his leaving was following the initial court hearing, so he must have left the flat to attend. What got him into that situation was his giving up dealing, and getting sacked from a job at Easy Spud. So, he does appear to have left the house before, and I agree that our not having witnessed that is not in itself notable. Mish (just an editor) (talk) 22:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

He's laves the flat loads of times during various episodes. However, we never actually see outside either his flat, the adjoining 2 flats or the hallway directly outside his flat; apart from the final scene at the end of Series 2 - where he's sat on the roof when flat is on fire - and the final scene at the end of Series 5 where we finally get to see a proper shot of the street and front of house. Tachy99 (talk) 16:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Psycho Paul
There was a mistake with Psycho Pauls entry - actor given as Thomas Keally, according to the credits of the programmes (and IMDB) its Ryan Pope edited this to correct the mistake —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.79.5 (talk) 17:45, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Country of origin England?
UK surely? I know that with articles about people on Wikipedia it's dependant on a number of things as to whether someone is lised as English/British, and I know that Ideal is set in England with English actors. But fair's fair - It's made by the BBC with my non-English payments of the licence fee being contributed too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.236.62 (talk) 02:08, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * No, Ideal was specifically created by BBC North [of England]. The distinction fades these days, but it's supposedly specifically regional. And I suppose it is definitely Salford if you've seen it. 88.109.225.3 (talk) 23:18, 22 May 2018 (UTC)