Talk:If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next

Spanish Bombs
Reference to the song being inspired by 'Spanish Bombs' from the Clash is marked 'Citation Needed'. Would this do? Dingwall, John. 1998 It took us 12 months to pen a classic; FIGHTING BACK: HOW THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR INSPIRED THE MANIC STREET PREACHERS TO WRITE THEIR No1 The Free Library (September, 4), http://www.thefreelibrary.com/It took us 12 months to pen a classic; FIGHTING BACK: HOW THE SPANISH...-a060555857 (accessed February 26 2014)

Link http://www.thefreelibrary.com/It+took+us+12+months+to+pen+a+classic%3B+FIGHTING+BACK%3A+HOW+THE+SPANISH...-a060555857 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.23.84.74 (talk) 10:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Past tense?
Is there a reason why this article is written in the past tense? Does the song no longer exist? I propose to change it to the present tense unless anyone objects --Gilgongo (talk) 19:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Present tense makes more sense Pellucidity (talk) 05:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Confusion about the Spanish Civil War
"... the idealism of volunteers from around the world who joined the International Brigade fighting Franco's military rebels against the Spanish Republic." This sentence is unclear. As someone who doesn't actually know anything about Spanish history or politics, I can't tell what it's referring to; fighting with or against Franco's military rebels? And "against the Spanish Republic" combined with the previous unclearness seems sort of like a double negative. I think. Ultimately, as someone who arrived here looking up the song, from reading this blurb, I can't tell if the song criticises or supports the "idealism of volunteers [etc]" (ie: it was misguided, it was a good thing, whatever). In any case, it's giving me a headache reading and re-reading it trying to figure it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.255.187 (talk) 16:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree that this is a poorly written sentence. I would propose changing it to read:

"'The song was about the Spanish Civil War and the idealism of volunteers from around the world who joined the International Brigade, fighting with the Republicans against Franco's Nationalist military rebels.'"


 * Whether the song supports one side or the other is a matter of artistic interpretation, however, and should not be elucidated. --Gilgongo (talk) 19:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Picture of Spanish Civil War Poster
A link to a picture of the poster which (presumably) inspired the title of this song was provided in the article with no information about its copyright license. I removed this link pending an investigation as to whether we would be able to put it here under an allowable license. However, I found that the image was licensed by The Imperial War Museum for "personal research and educational use." Wikipedia image licensing rules [forbid use of images] so licensed, so unless anyone has any better ideas, I have simply added a footnote that the poster can be seen in the museum. I would like to take this opportunity to say screw copyright and screw the copyright holder for preventing its use under a better license (the work was made over 60 years ago for crying out loud) - but that would endanger Wikipedia. --Gilgongo (talk) 21:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Flickr has an image marked free: [www.flickr.com/photos/chimpaction/515885281/] Pellucidity (talk) 05:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope, it's marked as "All rights reserved." I've contacted the photographer to ask if they'd consider making BY-NC. Let's hope they're a MSP fan. --Gilgongo (talk) 22:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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