Talk:Ignorance (song)

Ignorance video still
I just uploaded the video still for ignorance for visual purposes only. Wikipedias going to delete it because it has not 'source'. Please tell me how to get them to not delete it? I added the tag 'Non-free music video screenshot' to the description, will that work? If not, what will? --NicoX448 (talk) 00:01, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

UK Release
I think that Paramore may release it as a CD Single because they have with all their other singles (apart from the first 3) so surely they won't leave it with a download! Jonni_Boi (Talk) 16:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Photo
I think we should add a photo from the music video —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nightwyrex (talk • contribs) 03:51, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll try to add one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NicoX448 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

citation
This article need the copyright info from the single and the CD. for this track. It's always frustrating to look up a song and not see who wrote or hold the copyrights for the music and lyrics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.166.164.161 (talk) 11:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Genre
The song is emo, pop punk, and alternative rock, NOT punk rock —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emorocker777 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC) --NicoX448 (talk) 19:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC) Emorocker777 (talk • contribs) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.48.197 (talk) 04:30, 3 October 2009 (UTC) ~NicoX448 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.226.108 (talk) 18:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC) Emorocker777 (talk • contribs)
 * Thats completely wrong. This song is ALTERNATIVE ROCK and PUNK ROCK. Not POP ROCK, and DEFFINATELY NOT EMO!
 * I said the song was POP PUNK not POP ROCK, HUGE difference. what makes this song punk rock? The song is emo because of the bare emotion, it's like a harder, more mature, Misery Business
 * What you just stated was a major stereotype. Your saying its emo because it has emotion? So all songs that have emotion are emo? Its punk rock because of the music, not the lyrics. Alternative and punk rock are basically the same. Alt. Rock just branches off from punk.
 * You claim to know so much about music genres, but the song has nothing of Punk Rock, the song is pop punk and emo. Emo IS a genre and ignorance IS emo because of the lyrics and pop punk/alternative rock because of the music, it was NOT a stereotype it was the way the emotion is dealed out, not just the emotion. Plenty of songs that have emotion ARE NOT emo, i am just simply trying to explain to reach a middle ground.


 * Both of you: THIS IS NOT A FIELD FOR ORIGINAL RESEARCH. Use reliable sources. For now, I am making it rock and rock alone, since WP:ALBUM states we go for the most general term. If you bother to find sources to backup your claims then feel free to change it, if not, you will be reverted and tagged for genre vandalism (which I am personally sick to death of seeing, such a stupid arrogant issue). k.i.a.c  ( talktome  -  contribs ) 04:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I think at least (seeing as there obviously is no middle ground), we should at least call it Alternative rock (seeing as it's the only one we all seem to agree with). Idk how to source the "pop punk" genre (it was on the itunes review) but that one is 100% verifiable. and recently i've found one supporting all three genres

Emorocker777 (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 06:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC).
 * No, that is 100% unverifiable. Using an iTunes review, come on? It would be done by a user most likely and it's not accessible without the program. Does not pass WP:RS. Start here: WP:ALBUM/REVSIT. k.i.a.c  ( talktome  -  contribs ) 06:32, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

iTunes reviews are not valid sources, I can write these myself. I can see that this is a very simple argument, someone believes that lyrics define the genre "Emo" regardless of music, the other person simply removes "Emo" without permission.I suggest that you spend your time trying to find valid sources that are scattered all over the internet instead of reverting each other's changes in an endless battle of genres.T.tyrael 08:29, 17 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.tyrael (talk • contribs)


 * Review is the wrong word it was a summary of the album, and what i did was find reviews that said the song was the correct genre. This was a very petty arguement and i'll be the first to apologize for my part in it, but now it is sourced so it's truely over.

Emorocker777 (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 18:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC).

Thank you for understanding, and I'm glad that you have cited the genres on a couple of articles.T.tyrael 18:49, 17 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.tyrael (talk • contribs)

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