Talk:Ike for President (advertisement)

Ike for President copy edit
I'm responding to your request for a GOCE edit on the article Ike for President. Before beginning, I have a preliminary question. I'd like to edit (move) the article title to "Ike for President (advertising campaign). In the US advertising business, we rarely use the word "advertisement." as it is formal and doesn't really describe the Ike incident, which was in fact, a television advertising campaign. It included the 60 sec. commercial, a comprehensive media plan, a jingle, remarkable repetition and more. Incidentally, I don't think the article requires lots of copy editing; it's very good. Cleveland Todd (talk) 17:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Cleveland Todd: Thanks for taking the copy-edit request soon, despite the huge GOCE backlog piled up after the unfortunate death of . As for your initial question, the article title has '(advertisement)' to disambiguate it from Ike for President (a redirect to Draft Eisenhower movement). The word '(advertisement)' is also used in articles like FA Daisy (advertisement), and other articles like Meatballs (advertisement), Cog (advertisement), Gorilla (advertisement), The Life (advertisement), Second Generation (advertisement), etc. It seems a common precedent, even in political campaign ads. While I don't oppose the change, it would require a larger lever discussion or a RfC at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Marketing & Advertising. As for the second part, I requested a copy-edit as I was suggested that in the article's recent failed FAC, specifying that the prose is not "engaging" or "of a professional standard" as required by the FA criteria. I know GOCE is good at handling such requests. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:01, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * OK. You make excellent points; I really don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill here. We'll leave "advertisement" alone. I will start on and hope to finish the copy edit over the weekend. I have identified several stylistic facets that I think I can upgrade, while keeping the thought processes and excellent logical narrative intact. Cleveland Todd (talk) 14:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Much obliged! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 19:37, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I've done my preliminary edit. I like to step away at least overnight before doing the final search for misplaced commas and semicolons. Will mark this finished tomorrow afternoon. Outstanding article - really fascinating. I'm old enough to remember the campaign; Adlai Stevenson drove by our school once; the nuns paraded us all outdoors to watch him motor past. We all "liked Ike." Cleveland Todd (talk) 14:35, 2 April 2022 (UTC)


 * It is really a privilege to hear from someone who actually witnessed the campaign! I have merely read about it and can just imagine what you witnessed! Last year, when I was working on Daisy (advertisement) (another interesting piece of history), an editor told me that he saw "Daisy" as a young boy, and had "sleepless nights". That really fascinated me! Perhaps, that was another era. Thanks a lot for helping with the article, and do let me know if there is anything you feel confusing, irrelevant, or missing in the article. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)