Talk:Ilaiyaraaja/to do

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These may need to be reduced, fair-use justification given for each clip, and music clips could be put next to relevant paragraph in text in boxes. AppleJuggler 04:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * To Do #0: Music Samples

Could someone please look for more photographs? See if some of the photographs found here and here  could be included in certain sections of this article (e.g., an early photograph of Ilaiyaraaja for the 'Early Career' section, etc.). These photos were obtained from the Ilaiyaraaja YahooGroups and so could anyone try to join and get permission from this groups administrator to use the photographs (particularly the older photographs of Ilaiyaraaja or the ones showing him in recording studio)? Thank you. AppleJuggler 09:14, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #1 (Urgent): Photograph
 * ✅ AppleJuggler 04:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

This article has been peer reviewed, and suggestions have been provided on how to improve this article. These are found here. This article has been submitted as an FA candidate -- this is in order to solicit more feedback. Go here to see FAC review/comments. Please have a look and see if there are any issues that you can address. AppleJuggler 03:27, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #2: Respond to suggestions provided by reviewers
 * ✅ AppleJuggler 05:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

We need subject-matter experts. More can be written about the subject's early years (how did he grew up etc.), the era just before Ilaiyaraaja's entry into film direction (how was it, what was happening to the film music industry, was it stagnating?) and perhaps more detail about the period 1976 to mid-1980s (the period of his ascendency as a top film music director). Can something be said about the ubiquity of his music (how regularly are they played or heard in India or abroad, such as in Malaysian radio stations and music shows -- in other words, who are the audience of his music)? These are just a few suggestions. I'm sure editors/writers who give good thought about this subject could come up with other worthwhile information to include. AppleJuggler 03:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #3a: Expanding the article: more information about the subject is required

Again, something for a subject-matter expert to consider. Facts, such as his parents' names and the number of the subject's siblings, need to be verified. If possible, sources could be cited for these. AppleJuggler 03:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #3b: Verification of facts

A third subject-matter issue. The composer's songs has various moods, depending on the film scenes concerned. Some songs deal with motherly love and expressions of gratitude towards mothers (e.g., Amma from the film Mannan (1992)); a number are folk songs: folk songs driven by Indian percussions (the mandolin-and-saxophone-tinged Nila Athu from the film Nayakan and Kattu Kuyilu from Thalapathi (1991)), folk songs with quasi-Afro tribal beats (e.g., Aasaya Katrula from the Johnny (1980)); playful songs for scenes depicting village celebration/festival that fall under the Dappaankuthu musical style; songs in minor keys that express pathos and are classified as 'sad' songs (e.g.,  Chittuku Chella Chittuku from the film Nallavanukku Nallavan (1984), Aarariro from Thaaikku Oru Thaalattu (1986)); religious/devotional songs; upbeat and exuberant songs designed to, e.g., glorify the hero of a film or capture his rapture (e.g., the ecstatic Oru Nayagan Uthayamagiraan from director Bhagyaraj's film Thavani Kanuvugal (1983)) and Ninaichu Ninaichu from the film Sethu (1999)); psychadelic songs (e.g., Vaanam Keezhe Vandhal Enna from Thoongadhey Thambi Thoongadhey (1983)); dance tracks (e.g., Hey Unnaithane from Kaathal Parisu (1987)); and songs with funk, disco (the Earth, Wind and Fire-esque Ilamai Itho from Sakalakalavallavan (1982)), march (Raja Kaiyya Vecha from Apoorva Sagodharargal (1989)), doo-wop (Pudhu Mappilaiku from Apoorva Sagodharargal), Western folk (Ponmaane Theduthey from Oh Maane Maane (1984)) and 'romantic' pop flavours, embellished by lush orchestration, but which are all nonetheless tied together by a definite Indian quality. Perhaps a section could be developed to describe these with some analysis using selected songs. Separately, perhaps we can talk about the variety of vocal ornamentation (vibrato, trills, melisma, and other nuances) required by Ilaiyaraaja of his playback singers in singing his songs. Elaboration required on his background music work for films. AppleJuggler 03:55, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #3c: Characteristics of the composer's songs and his direction of playback singing

For example, most of his songs have a A1-B-A2-B pattern (where A1 is an instrumental prelude, A2 an instrumental interlude and B vocal sections) though this is not always the case. Then there are songs with an B-A2-B-A3-B form (A2 being interlude #1, and A3 interlude #3, a different interlude) or an A1-B-A2-B-A3-B-A1 form (in Poove Senpoove) or an A1-B1-A2-B2-A3a-B1-A3b-B2-B1 form (where 3a and 3b have similar structure but different instrumental arrangements, as in Potta Padiyuthu Thota), whereas the regular B-A2-B form is not that common amongst Ilaiyaraaja's songs. Such an analysis was done by someone for the band Queen which can be found here and here. Can we include something that discusses this? AppleJuggler 13:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #3d: How about a brief analysis of song structure?
 * Just realised that because entries are meant to be encylopedic, we can't include original research like this in the article. AppleJuggler 03:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps a sentence or two could be written about some eminent lyricists who have written lyrics for Ilaiyaraaja's compositions. I could think of only two (Vaali, and this other chap whose name I can't remember... oh yeah, Vairamuthu). Could anyone name a few more for me? AppleJuggler 03:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * To Do #3e: Lyricists who have worked with Ilaiyaraaja
 * ✅ AppleJuggler 06:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Could a good editor/proofreader deal with this? Thanks AppleJuggler 06:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #4: Check on narrative flow and sentence cohesion

Is anyone here good at creating 30-second sound clips of songs/mp3s (with fade-in/fade-out)? Perhaps some such snippets of this musician's songs could be included on this page. AppleJuggler 02:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC) ''I am working on preparing audio clips at the moment. Just will need help from people who know how to go about uploading these files, probably. '' AppleJuggler 07:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC).
 * To Do #5: Music samples/Audio clips
 * ✅ Samples selected based on different moods and styles of music (from classical/fusion to funk to Indian classical to sad songs to folk). AppleJuggler 16:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I see sites of famous people with not very straightforward names having these icons that, when clicked, produce a voice that pronounces their names. An example is Satyajit Ray's page (which is the only Indian cinema-related Feature Article on Wikipedia to date). Could someone do that and upload it and fix up that audio icon next to the name of the subject of this Wikipedia article? AppleJuggler 09:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #6: Can someone with a microphone record an audio file of how Ilaiyaraaja's name is pronounced?
 * ✅ AppleJuggler 01:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

The Malayalam film albums listed under the Partial Discography: Notable film albums section seems slightly long, their Wikilink possibilities not looked into, and the entries could do with some highlight-able details where appropriate (compare with the Tamil and Telegu film entries). Could someone please review the Malayalam film albums listed here, discard non-notable entries and tidy it up in general? AppleJuggler 03:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #7: Musician's discography: Malayalam film albums
 * ✅ AppleJuggler 08:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

This section is practically a list. Could someone who knows what these books (written by the subject of this article) are about write a sentence or two about them and maybe couch the narrative in a neat lil' paragraph? Thanks. AppleJuggler 04:27, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #8:  'Literary Works' section --- sketchy
 * ✅Moved some of the important titles to the Additional Readings section. AppleJuggler 15:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The doctorates awarded to the subject of this article and the other governmental awards referred to -- statements made in relation to these need support. Could someone cite sources for these? AppleJuggler 04:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #9: The 'Awards and Honours' section: needs citation of sources to back claims made in it
 * ✅AppleJuggler 04:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

There may be more comments added from time to time here. -- Ganeshk  ( talk ) 00:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * To Do #10: Regularly check the review comments page