Talk:Ill Manors

Correct capitalisation of Ill Manors
I have seen several variations of the capitalisation of Ill Manors, (such as ill Manors, ill MANORS, iLL Manors and ILL Manors) so I would like to open a discussion on which is the correct capitalisation. Based on the Wikipedia Manual of Style, I think there are two possibilities:
 * 1) "Ill Manors" where the initial letters of both words are in upper case and all other letters in lower-case. (see Manual of Style for composition titles)
 * 2) "ill Manors" where the initial letter of the first word is in lower case. (see Manual of Style for items that require initial lower case)

I think the best choice would be "Ill Manors" as this follows standard English conventions and according to the Wikipedia Manual of Style, the first and last words in composition titles (such as books, films, albums and song titles) should begin with an upper-case letter. Personally, I see no worthwhile reason why "ill Manors" should be used. I know it is written that way on digital stores but "Ill Manors" is a song title and not a trademark such as eBay, iPod etc. Please discuss which capitalisation of "Ill Manors" you think should be used. Ellm6 (talk) 16:28, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Agree with the above; I don't think it meets the criteria for an initial lower-case letter. Suggest going with the first option, possibly starting off the lead section with something like “Ill Manors (often sylised as iLL Manors or ill Manors) is an…” — cBuckley (Talk • Contribs) 23:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I've corrected the capitalisation from "ill Manors"/"iLL Manors" to the conventional "Ill Manors" on this article and "Ill Manors (song)" - Ellm6 (talk) 22:47, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Use of Lottery Money
The National Lottery has correctly been called a 'tax on the stupid', and this was made evident from the very beginning when funds which were supposed to benefit good causes first went instead to buying letters from a British political family and to renovating the Royal Opera House; clearly elitist causes which benefited nobody but the rich and powerful. This film represents misuse of lottery money at the other end of the spectrum. Of what possible use is it to glorify this band of obnoxious criminals who are clearly held back and kept down by their own 'respect culture'? The existence of the film can serve only to romanticize this depraved way of life and thus spread it to as-yet unpolluted regions. This film should be cited by objectors when Camelot next applies for its license to be renewed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.168.197.116 (talk) 02:17, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

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