Talk:Illawarra Steam Navigation Company

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Captain of Cobargo
The Cobargo was NOT captained by Luke Strotz. ill stake my reputation on it. 82.6.124.99 (talk) 21:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The info was added in Feb 2008 by an editor who doesn't edit regularly here and who did not provide a cite. A cite was requested but none has been forthcoming.  I have removed the information. --Matilda talk 21:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Date of formation
Perhaps this is the best spot to explain. According to all the sources I have, the Illawarra Steamship Navigation Company was formed after an act of Parliament in 1858. It didn't exist, at least as the company being referred to here, in 1842, and the three companies which were to form it didn't appear until after that date. The National Library of Australia's newspaper database doesn't include January 1842 for the Sydney Morning Herald, as as it only has scans from later that year, so the recent edit which suggested that the SMH, January 27, 1842 contained the 1842 date might be ok, but I can't verify it, and it is at odds with everything I can verify. However, the first mention of an Illawarra Steamship Navigation Company after that date in the SMH is in 1852, when a proposal to create the company was passed. That company was not the same as the one later formed in 1858, though, as the proposal was to create a new company and purchase a steamship, rather than to merge three existing companies. The company doesn't really start to get discussed in the SMH until after 1859, when it started discussing the half-yearly meetings, and prior to that in 1858 when there was material on amending the bill in parliament.

Hopefully this will clarify the current situation where it seems IPs are insisting on changing it to 1842. - Bilby (talk) 05:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

General Steam Navigation Company is ambiguous
Between 1824 and 1972 there is already a General Steam Navigation Company. Mostly operating from the River Thames in London,UK.--Robkam (talk) 19:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

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