Talk:Illegal operation (euphemism)

Did you know nomination (2022)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jengod (talk • contribs) 04:03, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 22 September 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: move...looks like there are several options, but it appears that "Illegal operation (euphemism)" is what is desired. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:46, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Illegal operation → Illegal operation (law) – There is WP:NOPRIMARY for this term with Illegal opcode, also commonly known as an "illegal operation", and they should be disambiguated. Indeed, the earliest version of the page was about the computer term. I have no strong opinion on what the disambiguation should be but (legal term) or (medical term) could also work, although there is also the problem of it potentially intersecting with Organ theft, so maybe (abortion law). Preferably only the history after 2022 be moved to this new location, the history prior to 2022 can be moved to a redirect called illegal operation (computing). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:25, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I would suggest Illegal operation (abortion euphemism) for the new title, since the article covers the use of the phrase across several domains (media, law, the arts) jengod (talk) 14:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Maybe "abortion term" then? I'm not sure any article uses "euphemism" for its disambiguation and they should be WP:CONSISTENT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Just Illegal operation (abortion) or maybe Illegal operation (archaic) would be my preference jengod (talk) 16:58, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


 * (abortion) makes it sound like it is a form of abortion procedure, not a term used to describe them. (archaic) can still cover incidences of organ theft and other non-abortion-related operations that are/were illegal. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:22, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I think illegal operation (euphemism) is best suited for the article as the text stands now
 * If that’s not allowed, I’ll leave it to your best judgment. Cheers, jengod (talk) 19:37, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm missing something but I don't see the phrase "illegal operation" on the Illegal opcode page. Illegal operation already has a note about computer errors that can lead the reader where they might have wanted to go; I don't see the need for this change. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 21:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


 * A simple Google search will come up with mostly the computer term and nothing about abortion. As well as Illegal taxi operation. It's clear that this term has to be disambiguated. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:54, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Zxcvbnm: Yeah, but I'd point out that this use is early 20th century – a simple google search is going to encompass recency bias, no? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:40, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

There are no inbound Wikilinks to the article that are about the computer error or other illegal surgeries. Could we create illegal operation (disambiguation) with this content? Or just put an edited variant of it at the top of the page?


 * for the historic euphemism for induced abortion, see illegal operation
 * for the computer errors, see illegal opcode and general protection fault
 * for unlicensed cabs, see illegal taxi operation
 * for involuntary organ removal surgery, see organ theft

jengod (talk) 14:29, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

I just looked at the page view stats for calendar year 2021 and illegal operation had 45 views, while illegal opcode had 13,151 views, so people are definitely finding their way around OK. 14:40, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment whatever the new name, this clearly is not the primary topic per the nominator. This should be a disambiguation page or just point to illegal opcode -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 04:57, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

How do we move forward with this discussion? Who can adjudicate if illegal operation (euphemism) or illegal operation (abortion euphemism) is an acceptable format for an article title? jengod (talk) 21:32, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It could just be simpler, the topic area of concern is "abortion", so illegal operation (abortion) (topic name + topic area disambiguator) could do it. -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 05:55, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That would be fine with me! jengod (talk) 07:57, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.