Talk:Illumination (company)/Archives/2023/December

Chris Meledandri won't run oversee DreamWorks Animation
Originally, many thought that Chris Meledandri would oversee both studios following the merger of DreamWorks Animation but Universal announces the executive lineup for DreamWorks Animation and it's revealed that Chris Meledandri won't oversee DreamWorks Animation after it's acquisition.

109.255.135.86 (talk) 21:19, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
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New films postponed
Whoever thought there's a film in July 2018, please see the news. The Secret Life of Pets 2 is now set to be released in 2019 while How the Grinch stole Christmas is at late 2018! George6VI (talk) 00:30, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Marketing
How much do they spend on marketing? Just asking cause I see the adverts like evewhere 82.38.157.176 (talk) 08:55, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

The valiant circus penguin?
Is that a real movie? Im kinda getting suspicious Jstar367 (talk) 20:51, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2017
Secret Life Of Pets Is Now At 75% On RT, While Despicable Me 2 Is Now At 74% On RT 207.172.180.75 (talk) 20:20, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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Did someone put the Wow! Wow! Wubbzy! film in place of Despicable Me? 24.212.194.146 (talk) 01:41, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2018
95.146.138.107 (talk) 11:32, 18 February 2018 (UTC) Super Mario is a 2018 film.
 * ❌ - all the references say 2020 - Arjayay (talk) 12:27, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

What about tv specials
Does Illumination is making Despicable Me and The Secret Life of Pets holiday specials? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.77.112.251 (talk) 22:24, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

References to other higher-grossing films
Regarding these diffs , should the statement that Frozen and Incredibles 2 made a bigger grossing than Minions have this many sources? only two sources cite either one of these movies surprassing Minions, and the rest only mention how Frozen became the highest-grossing animated film so far, with no mention of Minions or any other Illumination film. Gouleg (talk) 00:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Films in development
Given WP:CRYSTAL, specifically: and
 * Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place.
 * Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors.

and that films "in development" aren't guaranteed to enter production, should such projects be included here if they have not entered production or have no scheduled release date? Trivialist (talk) 02:48, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * No. Using weak sources to spread rumors and misconceptions is the opposite of what an encyclopedia should be doing. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOTGOSSIP also apply here. Routine press releases, churnalism, or vague speculation are not sufficient. The barrier for inclusion should be relatively high, so the films listed here absolutely do not meet this threshold. If substantial sources can be found which explain this in relation to the company itself, then this could be mentioned. Ideally, this would be in prose so context could be explained. Otherwise, just wait until more info is available, it's not like it will be a secret or anything. Grayfell (talk) 03:02, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed with Grayfell; Illumination had other slated projects in the past and end up unproduced, the Shrek and Puss in Boots reboot statement only surged after the Comcast acquisition of Dreamworks and it was only a comment from Meledandri (which a lot of news outlets decided to use it as headline). If something, we would rather wait if there is more information or updates on these projects. -Gouleg (Talk • Contribs) 21:26, 2 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Since there seems to be consensus, I have again removed this content. Listing an "untitled film" projected for release via Universal in 2023 seemed especially pointless and distracting. Grayfell (talk) 21:05, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Adding a note to the article for future edits that attempt to list these films as "projects in development", so they can see this section if they have any objection . -Gouleg (Talk • Contribs) 19:17, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * and, please join the discussion on the talk page. Explain why this section belongs, or at least respond to the reasons we think it is inappropriate. Ignoring this is disruptive. Grayfell (talk) 21:16, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello. Please explain how the section added with this edit is different from the "upcoming films" section above it. Please explain why these sources are sufficient for discussing these films at all. We have two tables with flimsy sources containing poorly supported or misrepresented sources. Right now these claims are attached to sources that simply do not support them. This source from early 2017 does not mention anything about any films after Sing 2. Ignoring these problems is not acceptable. Please discuss. Grayfell (talk) 05:07, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , you have added once again a section for Films in development and have not providen any explication for your edits either in the edit summary or in this thread. We are still waiting for a reply about this topic. -Gouleg (Talk • Contribs) 16:54, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * @Gouleg Disney and Illumination Entertainment Ink Multi-Year Production, Development Deal (EXCLUSIVE) Ega Dewanto Khalil Nugroho (talk) 11:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Redundant list of films
Is there any particular reason we have a list here, and also at List of Illumination films? This seems completely redundant, and the two articles have drifted out of sync. Grayfell (talk) 21:10, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The article was created by as a counterpart to similar pages for Pixar and WAG (as they mention it in the edit summary). Illumination does not have a extensive portfolio of released films unlike other mainstream animation studios that have been for a longer time like WDAS, Pixar or Dreamworks. Aside of just providing a break down on the film crew, critical reception, and box office numbers on each of their films, there is nothing else this article can provide that is not already providen in the films' respective articles. -Gouleg (Talk • Contribs) 14:23, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

IP-hopping
I have requested semi-protection to slow down IP edits (here). Recent edits look more like sock puppetry than good-faith discussion. Grayfell (talk) 22:16, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

TV special
Minions Holiday Special is the first TV special! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1009:B055:CBE8:595D:8763:59E4:CFC1 (talk) 00:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Short promotionals
Illumination made short promotionals Tree Lightning Ceremony (2014), The Holiday Greeting (2015), Happy Holidays from Sing (2016) and The Grinch: Olympics (2018). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.24.96.77 (talk) 18:38, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

List of franchises and links to List of Illumination films
Pinging users and  for a proper discussion about the addition and removal of sections in this article, instead of constanting reverting each other edits, pretty sure we can reach a consensus here -Gouleg🛋️ (Talk • Contribs) 14:09, 11 January 2021 (UTC)


 * @Gouleg How about making a prequel movie of Turning Red character Devon was playing Atomaders games for cinemas? Ega Dewanto Khalil Nugroho (talk) 11:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Company status
It seems this article has the status of Illumination wrong. It is not a subsidiary of Universal, but an independant company with an exclusive production and distribution deal with Universal (as well as Universal co-owning the brand name). It is not a division of Universal, Universal is not its parent company, etc. Rhindle The Red (talk) 12:34, 6 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Rhindle The Red Yes, it's okay, I'm Sorry if master can explain Illumination was wrong it's not subsidiaries of Universal, Can I ask all of you with good news is Walt Disney Pictures and Illumination Entertainment Ink Multi-Year Production, Development Deal (EXCLUSIVE). Ega Dewanto Khalil Nugroho (talk) 11:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2023
2600:1700:8BB0:51B0:49B8:AC87:F3E6:5492 (talk) 23:39, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 00:56, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Ownership of Illumination
Who owns Illumination? Is it owned by Universal or Meledandri? I need answers because if it is independent then why is Universal still considered the Parent here? There are too many inconsistencies. WiinterU (talk) 18:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC)