Talk:Ilyas Qadri/Archive 1

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Hi - given that the real name (as per passport etc) of this individual is actually Muhammad Ilyas Qadri, I have started this new page. When I have got the basic information included, I will discuss on other relevant pages with a view to getting them merged and re-directed to this location - Raza2526 (talk) 19:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I have removed the deletion tag as the article has - to my understanding - been sufficiently referenced. If there are further improvements required please message me and I will do this. Please don't re instate this tag without first making contact so I can ascertain what needs to be improved. Raza2526 (talk) 04:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't read most of the sources, but nice job! I found nothing at all when I looked.  Language was probably the issue. Hobit (talk) 04:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, unfortunately most of the sources are in the Urdu language. I understand translations are in progress and as soon as they become available I will update the references to point to the English language sources.Raza2526 (talk) 16:38, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Peace be upon those who follow right guidance! I have now re directed the Ilyas Qadri and Ilyas Attar Qadri pages to re direct here, as this article is now at least at a basic level. Please, whoever wishes to contribute make sure that your contributions are referenced and the English is of an acceptable level. If you are unsure of the style of writing require or how to reference, please feel free to send me the appropriate information on my user talk page and I will try my best to compose, reference and submit it. Raza2526 (talk) 02:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Hanafi?
A certain user (User:Syed Faizullah Jan) has edited this page - and others throughout Wikipedia - removing tags which refer to Muhammad Ilyas Qadri and others, attempting to refute them as Sunni and/or Hanafi. Whatever your personal viewpoint is, it has no place in this encylopedic resource, so please don't edit this again until you can produce documentary evidence. Thanks.

Important: Name of this Article
The name of the individual is "Muhammad Ilyas Qadri", I also discussed this above. It appears someone changed it without even checking the discussion page? All of the official documents - passport, etc - of the personality contain this name. Can an MOD or experienced user advise me as to the procedure of reverting this? Raza2526 (talk) 02:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Important: Name of this Article
The name of the individual is "Muhammad Ilyas Qadri", I also discussed this above. It appears someone changed it without even checking the discussion page? All of the official documents - passport, etc - of the personality contain this name. Can an MOD or experienced user advise me as to the procedure of reverting this? Raza2526 (talk) 02:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Neutrality
This article was written by followers of sheikh Muhammad Ilyas Qadri, when I read it, I don't feel it's NPOV but rather that it is a piece of propaganda.--Kimdime (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Clarify affiliation?
The lede is currently very unclear as to what Qadri's affiliation is. It mentions all the people who follow/respect him, but does not clarify what demographic supports his teachings. I am under the vague impression that he is part of the "Barelvi movement]] - not necessarily of the silsila (chain of ideological inheritance) of Ahmad Raza Khan directly, but part of the same Sufi-influenced movement to retain traditional South Asian Islam, as compared to the competing Deobandis. The lede needs some clarity as to what factions of Islam do or do not support him. MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:26, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Views of Ulma E Ahlesunnat about Muhammad Ilyas Qadri
I have updated/edited following but don't know why these are deleted?????? any one answer....... even I hev mention video link for source how could be that unreliable source while the person are clearly saying which I have written following.... what the hell?????????

Many Great Sunni Muslim Ulma E Kiraam of the world like Kaukab Noorani Okarvi, Allama Hashmi Miyan , Mufti Faiz Ahmed Owaisi , Arshadul Qaudri , Muhammad Muneeb ur Rehman , Allamah Syed Irfan Shah Mashhadi ETC consider Ilyas Qadri is great Leader of Muslim Ummah. http://www.dawateislami.net/books/bookslibrary.do#!section:onlineRead_366.2.64 http://www.scribd.com/doc/147949604/dawat-e-islami-ulma-e-ahle-sunnat-ki-nzr-main-mufti-faiz-ahmmad-owasi

any one can ans????

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Summations (talk • contribs) 04:19, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The first source you cite givces no author or publisher, the second appears to be from a small publisher with no obvious ediutorial control, neither looks like a reliable source for wikipedia purposes, so this addition cannot be included without a better source. DES (talk) 23:47, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

here is the first book publisher detail of this book plz check http://www.dawateislami.net/books/bookslibrary.do#!section:onlineRead_366.2.2 http://www.dawateislami.net/books/bookslibrary.do#!section:onlineRead_366.2.102 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Summations (talk • contribs) 08:27, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

and second book publisher which u thought small? plz explain how can that be small while they published many books with many famous scholars ,... and thnx for your rply :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Summations (talk • contribs) 08:07, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * According to http://www.scribd.com/Books%20On%20Dawat%20E%20Islami "Books On Dawat E Islami" has published a total of 43 ebooks. I would call that small. It seems to have as its web site at least a wordpress sub-site, which is geneerally a site for blogs and very small literary buisnesses. I don't see any reveiews or discussion of this publisher that suggest it is a reliable source. Can you cite any academic discussion or mainstream reveiws of it? DES (talk) 00:41, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
 * As to the firstr sourc, if Maktaba-tul-Madinah is the publisher (as seems to be the case) no author is listed. It seems to be a fairly narrowly focused publisher, with some 200 books listed on its web site catalog. It also seems as if it may be affialted with the gorups under discussion in the article. i am limited in my ability to asses the reliabity of these cited sources because I do not read arabic. DES (talk) 00:48, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi my dear again,

I think u totally misunderstanding my point of view.. ok i am trying again : I have edited that page, add some information for people that what sunni scholars says about ilyas qadri and I have mention two books... the book from source scribd u took that unreliable , did u read book ? did u read what scholars said about ilyas qadri ? and my main thing is this : please read sources in book, book from scribd is not only source for proving my edit but u can see in book where any scholar said about ilyas qadri there also mention another source which were some old news papers some old interviews..... hope u understanding my point of view my brother...

and one more thing that all scholars like  Kaukab Noorani Okarvi, Allama Hashmi Miyan , Mufti Faiz Ahmed Owaisi , Arshadul Qaudri , Muhammad Muneeb ur Rehman , Allamah Syed Irfan Shah Mashhadi ETC are saying comments in videos (youtube,dailymotion,vimeo etc)  about ilyas qadri that he is great leader for muslim ummah then why we need another sources while we have video proof!!. scholars from norwway scholars from arab are clearly saying in video saying same which I edit/add in article.... plz try to follow a simple thing... this information should be mention in wikipedia....

and Maktaba-tul-Madinah is very highly recommended publisher which published not only 200 books but more then — Preceding unsigned comment added by Summations (talk • contribs) 07:06, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It isn't independent, as it's website says, "Maktaba Tul Madina - Official Publishers of Dawat e Islami" - in other words it's a website of the organisation the subject of this article founded. So we'd be saying "Books published by Muhammad Ilyas Qadri's publishing company praise him." As an aside, how many of them are actually books? A lot seem to be say 56 pages. Dougweller (talk) 12:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

what are you saying and why are you not understanding and answering my questions? this is not only matter of sources my dear please read my previous comment... yes one book are from "Maktaba Tul Madina - Official Publishers of Dawat e Islami" but what written in that book? do you read? and what written in that book have video proof too in many videos website which I already given too... just for example in book suppose there in written that scholar  Kaukab Noorani Okarvi said ilyas qadri is great leader, in book there is written proof but same u can see  Kaukab Noorani Okarvi saying same in videos too that, then how and why this information not added? and I have mention other book too which are not from Official Publishers of Dawat e Islami, and please read that book because there not only written but there are mentioned original sources too , sources of old news papers , interviews etc... so please dont take it as ego it is just information which people should knw. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Summations (talk • contribs) 05:07, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

? --Summations (talk) 06:07, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

any one here ? --Summations (talk) 05:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

--- the following exchange is copied from User talk:DESiegel

I am waiting for your response on following issue... thanks

Reliability of possibly partisan sources about Muhammad Ilyas Qadri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Reliability_of_possibly_partisan_sources_about_Muhammad_Ilyas_Qadri --Summations (talk) 09:28, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * , I gave my opinion. I don't think the sources are acceptable, because they are not independent of the subject, and there is no evidence of fact checking, nor of the kind of reputation which would make them reliable sources. I took the matter to WP:RSN in hopes getting a second opinion, either to confirm mine or to indicate facts I might have overlooked. No other editor chose to respond on the point. So my opinion remains, the sources should not be used in the article, ans so the statement for which they were quoted should not be there either. Of course, I am only one editor, if a somewhat experienced one. I am going to copy this exchange to the article talk page for other possibly interested editors to see. DES (talk) 16:51, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

End of copied exchange


 * And I agree. I'll also note that at RSN an editor wrote ""Many Great Sunni Muslim Ulma E Kiraam of the world like" is a quick fail of WP:PEACOCK regardless of sources". Dougweller (talk) 18:58, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I respect your Opinion as because you'r think is right way and these are all for proving public to correct and authentic information... but I am here again to request that please review your opinion again, It is not only about that books which I mentioned on article but also video proof available , same video proof which are written on that books... same Scholar same video same written, so review again plz --Summations (talk) 04:36, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit request from, 31 October 2011
I have very much useful and authentic data about this Islamic Personality "Muhammad Ilyas Qadri". Please also me to edit this Article, check at your end and approve it accordingly.

Madani.Channel (talk) 13:37, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe you should be able to edit the article as I believe you should be WP:AUTOCONFIRMED now. If you still cannot the proper place to ask for the confirmed rights is WP:RFR. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 21:36, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Source to add?
In the hunt for non-primary sources for this article, I came across a passage in Soufisme et politique au Pakistan by Alix Philippon, p138-139, which might be worth a look. Unfortunately, my grasp of French is based on Eddie Izzard shows, and so anything not involving a monkey in a tree is a bit beyond me; the translation below was helpfully provided by It's Been Emotional:

"Ilyas Qadri exhorts (us) therefore to 'fear the punishment of God' and to 'beg forgiveness' from him, and gives an overview (?) of all that Islam forbids, and which could lead straight 'into hell': mixing between men and women at public gatherings or ceremonies, taking photos, watching television, going to the beach and looking at women etc. Exchanging of looks between men and women is particularly condemned by Qadri and is subject to a specific punishment, that of 'the nails' (??), which God would have told/indicated to to the prophet at the time of his miraculous journey (the mir'aj). This punishment applies similarly, according to a poem of Qadri included in the brochure, to those who look at photos or listen to music, sinners (???) likened to 'allies of Satan.' In their case, the nails will go 'in their eyes and their ears.' Laughter is also a condemnable practice. Qadri invokes a hadith and a work of the Imam Ghazali to support the idea according to which 'The person who has laughed too much in her life will cry a lot the day when she goes to hell.' Fear is in effect one of the emotions which Muhammad Ilyas Qadri attempts regularly to arouse in his readers: 'Perhaps you will not have the heart to finish this reading, but perhaps it will help you on the day of the last Judgment,' he writes in the introduction of one of his many discourses (no 25), 'The uninhabited palace'. There he recounts the story of the Sufi Junaid Baghdadi who went to Kufa where he saw a grand, floodlit palace, swarming with servants busy helping the guests totally dedicated to their pleasures and their entertainment. (don't know if it means the guests are dedicated to their own pleasure, or the servants are dedicated to it, suspect the latter). At the entrance of the palace, a singer hums 'No one will be sad, no one will destroy this house.' A few months later, Junaid returned in this direction, but he found the palace empty. Only the singer was present, who explained that the prince and his servants were dead: 'This house is an example to those who have faith in this life and not in the other,' she said. According to Ilyas Qadri, this story teaches a fundamental lesson: life is a trickster, it it is necessary not to forget the reality of death. He therefore exhortes his readers to focus every day on this inescapable issue, that they may neglect the pleasures of this low world, and not hold in contempt the Day of Final Judgement. In a poem, he writes: 'Change the style of life (?)' 'You should not be interested by this world' or again 'You should change your life now and beg forgiveness.'"

I can't see anything instantly useable in this, but I'm posting it here for other editors to take a look; if you can see anything useful for the article here please put it in. Ref is as follows: Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 08:24, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2014
slaam plz this is not a valid information about Ilyas qadri Mumtaz Qadri was not a member of dawateislami, He was just lover of Dawateislami thousands of the people paticipate in Dawateislami weekly ijtmaa every thursday He also paticipated in few of them, It is fact about dawateislami that Hundred of crimnals changed their lives after paticipating in Ijtmaa But they all are not members of dawateislami i am not saying that Mumtaz Qadri is a Murderer Allah Knows better about Him. So plz Remove these Lines and add proper information about Ilyas Qadri from dawateislami web address www.dawateislami.net Thanks alot Regards: Rahat Islam

Prof. Rahat Islam (talk) 05:39, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.

Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2014
Please remove the 2nd paragraph where it says that in 2011 the governer was killed by a member of this group. Firstly, why is this the only thing described in the biography of Mr.Qadri this should be in his group's page. Secondly, the sources that are mentioned are non-reliable, anybody could write such articles about a specific group or people. The cited source does not have any credibility, and the second cited source is from an Indian website. The event of 2011 happened in Pakistan. How would an indian know correctly about a pakistani event? Therefore, i humbly request you to remove paragraph 2. Thanks

98.201.60.240 (talk) 06:46, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I can replace the first source with http://www.dawn.com/news/596297/qadri-smiling-fanatic-who-killed-punjab-governor. Your dismissal of the second source is, quite frankly, racist. Cannolis (talk) 18:13, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2014
/// AMEER-E-AHLE-SUNNAT /// THE AUSPICIOUS BIRTH The Spiritual Guide, Shaykh-e-Ṭarīqat, Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat, the Honourable, Ḥaḍrat, ‘Allāmaĥ, Maulānā, Abu Bilāl Muḥammad Ilyās ‘Aṭṭār Qādirī Razavī دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ was born on the 26th of Ramaḍān, 1369 A.H. (1950 A.D.) in Karachi, Pakistan.

/// FOR-FATHERS Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat’s forefathers lived in the village of Kutyānaĥ in Jūnāgařĥ, India. His grandfather, ‘Abdur-Raḥīm رَحْمَةُ اللهِ عَلَيْه was renowned for his virtues and exemplary character. His parents migrated to Pakistan, after independence [from the British rule]. They initially lived in Hyderabad, Bāb-ul-Islām [Sindh, Pakistan] but later moved to Bāb-ul-Madīnaĥ, Karachi.

/// PASSION FOR LEARNING The Prophet of mankind, the peace of our heart and mind, the most generous and kind صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم said, “If Allāĥ عزوجل Wills goodness for someone; Allāĥ عزوجل Bestows understanding of Dīn upon him.” (Saḥīḥ Bukhārī, pp. 42, Ḥadīš 71, Vol. 1)

Amīr-ul-Muminīn, The Valiant Sayyidunā ‘Alī کَرَّمَ اﷲُ تَعَالٰی وَجْھَهُ الْکَرِیْم said that the Noble Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم said, “Whoever adopts averseness [and dislike] from the [materialistic] world, Allāĥ عزوجل Grants him knowledge without him having to seek it or learn it. Allāĥ عزوجل grants him assistance to tread on the right path without any apparent means for him to do so. Allāĥ عزوجل also bestows him foresight [baṣīraĥ] and distances him from ignorance. (Al-Jami’us-Ṣagīr, pp. 528, Ḥadīš 8725)

Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ had been adorned by religious knowledge right from his youth. The main sources of this knowledge were books and the affiliation of religious scholars, specifically the Grand Muftī of Pakistan, Shaykh Muftī Waqār-ud-Dīn Qādirī Razavī عَلَیهِ رَحْمَةُ اﷲِ القَوِیْ Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ spent about twenty two years under the aegis of the Grand Shaykh and was graced with the honour of being his Khalīfaĥ [Spiritual Successor].

/// ZEAL FOR READING By the Grace of Allāĥ عزوجل, Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ is proficient in and well acquainted with the sacred Islamic laws, guidelines of spirituality [Taṣawwuf] and code of morals and ethics due to his immense passion for reading and constant interaction with the prominent scholars.

Besides reading many Islamic books authored by several great and prominent scholars, his zeal to read, the Scribe of Islamic Law [Sharī’aĥ], the Guiding light of Spirituality [Ṭarīqaĥ], Muftī Muḥammad Amjad ‘Ali A’ẓamī’s prominent book “Baĥār-e-Sharī’at” is exceptional. Moreover, he is keen in reading Imām Aḥmad Razā Khān’s remarkable verdicts’ collection “Fatāwā-e-Razawīyyaĥ” for seeking knowledge. He extensively reads Imām Muhammad Ghazālī’s books, especially “Iḥyā-ul-‘Ulūm” and also instructs his associates and disciples to do the same. Additionally, books authored by other eminent scholars are also being read by him.

Furthermore, he expertly elaborates and explains, in layman’s terms, complex topics like: Bearing patience [Ṣabr]; expressing gratitude [Shukr]; entrusting in the Divine Providence [Tawakkul]; having contentment [Qanā’at]; bearing fear [Khauf]; adopting hope [Rijā]; abstaining from lying, back-biting; and avoiding malice, rancour and heedlessness.

/// HIS WRITINGS Master of Madīnaĥ, The Comforter of the Hearts, The Prophet of Raḥmaĥ, the Intercessor of Ummaĥ, the Distributor of Na’maĥ, the Owner of Jannaĥ صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم said, “When a person dies, his deeds come to an end except for three things: ongoing charity [Ṣadqaĥ Jāriyaĥ]; knowledge which benefits [others]; or a pious offspring, who supplicates [and prays] for him.” (Saḥīḥ Muslim, pp. 886, Ḥadīš 1631)

By the Grace of Allāĥ عزوجل, Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ is amongst those scholars who have authored books, in addition to other righteous activities, to reap the benefits of the actions listed in the aforementioned Ḥadīš. He is one of the distinguished authors amongst his contemporaries. When he starts writing on any subject, he finishes it with immense perfection. That’s why masses from every walk of life have been inspired by his books, and in turn they strive to inspire others to read and distribute the literature authored by him in huge quantity.

/// BOOKS, BOOKLETS AND TRANSCRIPTS OF DISCOURSES Many of his books’ authored in his distinguished style and his lectures’ transcript texts have been published till date. His most prominent endeavour is Faizān-e-Sunnat, the first volume of which contains the following chapters spread out over 1,548 pages:

Blessings of Bismillāĥ – “Faizān-e-Bismillāĥ” Islamic Manners of Eating – “Ādāb-e-Ṭa‘ām” The Excellence of Hunger – “Payṫ Kā Qufl-e-Madīnaĥ” Blessings of Ramaḍān – “Faizān-e-Ramaḍān” In addition to the above he has also authored the following books:

“Laws of Ṣalāĥ”: On the rulings pertaining to Ṣalāĥ [daily Prayers], Wuḍu [Ritual Ablution], Ghusl [Ritual bath], and Janāzaĥ [Funeral]. “28 Words of Profanity”: On the identification of phrases which, if uttered, lead a Muslim to disbelief [Kufr]. “Priceless Diamonds”: is on the importance of time management. “Cure for Anger”: On anger management. “I want to rectify myself”, “Method of becoming Pious” & “Cure for Sins”: On how to foster a change within oneself. “Test of the Grave”, “Shocks of the Deceased”, “Helplessness of the Deceased”: On the inquisitions and events to take place in the grave. “Heedlessness”: On the remedies for heedlessness. “The Four Donkeys of Satan”: On how to protect oneself from the trickery of the Satan [Shayṭān], the accursed. “Calls of the River”: To inspire to repent. “Devastations of Music”, “Destruction of Television”: On the perils of Music, songs and television. “Deserted Palace” & “Bones of the Kings”: On attaining averseness from the love of this materialistic world [Dunyā]. “Sweet Words”: On the subject of Politeness [Ḥusn-e-Ākhlāq]. “Respect of a Muslim”: On respecting and dignifying fellow Muslims. “Khūdkushī kā ‘ilāj”: On the importance of endurance in the wake of difficult times and remedies to abstain from suicide. “The Death of Abū Jaĥl”, “Spiritual Enthusiasm” & “Blind Flag Bearer”: To instil a passion to give sacrifice for the Sake of Allāĥ. “Ẓulm kā Ānjām”: To stop wilfully causing pain or distress to others and on the consequences of oppression. “Injured Snake” & “Parday sey Mutalliq Suwāl o Jawāb”: On the importance of secluding women from the sight of men and strangers. “Keep the Masjid Fragrant”: On the importance of perfuming the Masjid and safeguarding them from all foul odours. “Na’at with Żikr”: A collection of precious gems extracted from Fatāwā Razawīyyaĥ regarding reciting Na’at poems [praising the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم] and its etiquettes. “Na’at Khūwān aur Nazrānā”: On the Islamic ruling pertaining to taking money and gifts for the recitation of Na’at poems [praising the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم] in public. “Solution for Conflicts”: On how to resolve strained relations. “Miracles of Imām Ḥussaīn رَضِیَ اللهُ عَنْهُ on the excellence and status of Imām Ḥussaīn رَضِیَ اللهُ عَنْهُ. “21 Madanī Pearls for the Employees’”: On the Madanī Pearls and rulings of Islam pertaining to employees. “Rafīq-ul-Ḥarāmaīn”: On an extensive discussion in a layman’s term regarding the proper way of performing Ḥaj pilgrimage and ‘Umraĥ. In addition to these, many other books written on diversified topics are also serving the Ummaĥ as a guideline. [Note: Some of the books listed have been translated into English and into various other languages while others are currently in the process of being translated].

A unique characteristic of Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat’s دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ writing is that he places diacritical marks over words that are difficult to pronounce in order to aid the reader in correctly pronouncing these words. An Islamic brother was astonished when he counted the number of diacritical marks on the section subtitled ‘Intentions that should be rendered while reading this book’, in the book “Faizān-e-Ramazān” they were more than 378.

/// SUNNAĤ-INSPIRING BAYĀNĀT [SPEECHES] Speeches are an effective means to enjoin what is good and forbid what is wrong. By the Grace of Allāĥ عزوجل, Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ is from amongst that group of scholars, whose lectures leave a lasting impression on the hearts of Muslims. People flock in huge numbers to The Universal and non-political movement of Quran and Sunnaĥ, Dawat-e-Islami’s Annual-International Ijtimā’ [congregation] and other provincial [State-level] congregations to benefit from his sermons, filled with wisdom and guidance. Hundreds of thousands of people listen to his speeches in these congregations at a time. In addition to physical attendance, his speeches are also relayed over the telephone and streamed over the internet. Moreover, his recorded speeches are produced on audio cassettes and CDs [on DVDs and VCDs] and released by Maktaba tul-Madīnaĥ. They are also televised on Dawat-e-Islami’s Madanī Channel. These are widely available and listened to in many circles including homes, shops, Masājid and universities.

He is an excellent orator and his speeches are so lucid and his style is so sympathetic that it deeply impacts the listeners and fosters a change within them. As a result countless individuals have forgone their sinful and disobedient ways and now tread on the path of righteousness. Here is an example to highlight this very fact:

/// THE PRAYING PIRATE A responsible Islamic brother of Bāb-ul-Madīnaĥ, Karachi [Pakistan] said:

“A close and dear friend of mine was a chronic drunkard and a gambler and was very bold in committing wrong doings and sins. Although he was a resident of Bāb-ul-Madīnaĥ [Karachi], he would occasionally travel to Colombo, C Lanka [Sri Lanka] and had married a local woman there as well.

One time I slipped an audio cassette of a sermon of Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ, entitled ‘Namāzī Ḋākū’ [The Pirate who Prayed] in his luggage before he left for Colombo. After arriving at Colombo he listened to it and the spiritual words of Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ pierced his heart. He went through a righteous Madanī transformation and adorned his face with a beard and permanently made the turban [‘Imāmaĥ] part of his attire. He has since engaged himself in performing the righteous Madanī works of Da’wat-e-Islāmī and has also become a disciple of Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ” & became Aṭṭārī.

On the July 10, 2003 he passed away after reciting the testimonial phrase [the Kalimaĥ ] loudly.

/// FEAR OF ALLĀĤ عزوجل Allāĥ عزوجل says in Sūraĥ Al-Raḥmān:

وَلِمَنْ خَافَ مَقَامَ رَبِّهٖ جَنَّتٰنِ

“But for him who fears to stand before his Rab عزوجل there are two Paradises.”

(Sūraĥ Al-Raḥmān, Juz. 27, āyaĥ. 46) (Kanzul Īmān(Treasure of Faith)[Translation of Quran])

The Companion Ḥaḍrat Sayyidunā Abū Hurairaĥ رَضِىَ اللهُ تَعَالٰی عَنْهُ has narrated that the Exalted Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم said: “Allāĥ عزوجل Says, ‘I Swear by My Dignity and Glory, I will not gather two states of fear and nor will I gather two states of peace upon my servant [‘abd]. If he remained fearless [from me] in the world then on the day of Resurrection I will afflict him with fear, if he remained fearful of me in the world I will keep him in peace on the Day of Resurrection.” (Shu’bul Īmān, pp. 483, Ḥadīš 777, vol. 1)

/// LOVE OF RASŪLALLĀĤ Companion Ḥaḍrat Sayyidunā Anas رَضِىَ اللهُ تَعَالٰی عَنْهُ narrated that the Raḥmatul-lil-‘Ālamīn, the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم said, “Anyone from amongst you, cannot be a true believer [momin] until I am more dearer to him than his father, his children and all the people.” (Saḥīḥ Bukhārī, pp. 17, Ḥadīš 14, vol. 1)

Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat’s دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ life is an embodiment of following the Sunnaĥs because of his deep rooted and profound love for the Makkī Madanī Mustafā صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم. Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ is, therefore, known as ‘Āshiq-e-Madīnaĥ’ [Devotee of Madīnaĥ].

He has often been observed to be incessantly shedding tears and at times becomes so restless in devotion to the Makkī Madanī Muṣṭafā صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم that the observer involuntarily begins to shed tears on seeing such out-pour of love. His ecstatic condition is beyond words during the Ijtimā’ [congregations] of Żikr [remembering Allāĥ عزوجل] and the Na’at poem recitals.

Sarkār صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم kay qadmon kay nishān ḋĥūnḋ raĥā ĥay

Jo ashk mayrī ānkĥ kī putlī say girā ĥay

In the quest of the footprint of the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم

Is the tear drop of my eye which has departed?

/// FIRST INVITATION OF HIS WEDDING Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ sent the first invitation of his wedding to the Noble Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم. How this came to pass is that he handed an invitational letter to an Islamic brother who was going to the Holy City of Madīnaĥ who read it out before the Golden Grill at the sacred court of the Holy Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم. Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ later commented, “At the time of my Nikāḥ I was longing and thinking as to when the Exalted Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم will grace us with his presence. It was the blessings of these unique and captivating thoughts that the wedding ceremony took place righteously (whereas people, at large, have been observed to infringe upon and violate the sacred Islamic laws during marriage ceremonies).”

/// INITIATION INTO A SPIRITUAL SUFI ORDER Out of deep admiration for Imām of Aĥl-us-Sunnaĥ, Reviver of the Religion, Shaykh Imām Aḥmad Razā Khān عَلَيْهِ رَحْمَةُ الرَّحْمٰنْ, Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ had longed to make Baī’at [initiation] into the Shaykh’s Spiritual Sufi Order [Silsilaĥ]. He wrote about this: “Neither was there any shortage of Shuyūkh [Spiritual Guides] among the Aĥl-e-Sunnat at that time, nor is there any shortage today, but there was only one personality that came to mind (when I decided to become a Murīd and be initiated into a Sufi Order).

Pasand apnī apnī, khiyāl apnā apnā

Different people have different choices

One advantage of having him as my spiritual leader was that he was only one link away from [the great spiritual guide] Imām Aḥmad Razā Khān عَلَيْهِ رَحْمَةُ الرَّحْمٰنْ. The other thing that drew me to him was that he lived close to the Green Dome (of the Prophet’s صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم Masjid in Madīnaĥ). This esteemed person that I am referring to is Shaykh-ul-Faḍilaĥ, The Light of Razawīyyaĥ, Beacon for the People, Murīd and Khalīfaĥ [disciple and Spiritual successor] of Imām Aḥmad Razā Khān عَلَيْهِ رَحْمَةُ الرَّحْمٰنْ. The Teacher of Spirituality, The Guide of Sacred Law, Shaykh of Arabs and non-Arabs, Host of the Guests of Madīnaĥ, Quṭb of Madīnaĥ, Honourable Shaykh Ziā-ud-Dīn Aḥmad Madanī Qādirī Razavī عَلَیهِ رَحْمَةُ اﷲِ القَوِیْ.”

Ziā pīr-o-murshid mayray raĥnumā hayn رَحْمَةُ اللهِ تَعَالٰی عَلَيْه

Surūr-e-dil-o-jān mayray dil rubā hayn

Munawwar karaīn qalb-e-‘Aṭṭār دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ ko bĥī

Shaĥa رَحْمَةُ اللهِ تَعَالٰی عَلَيْه! Āap Dīn-e-mubīn ki ziā hayn

Ziā رَحْمَةُ اللهِ تَعَالٰی عَلَيْه is my guide, leading the way

Dear to my heart, my graceful mentor

Enlighten the heart of ‘Aṭṭār دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ as well

You are my Master رَحْمَةُ اللهِ تَعَالٰی عَلَيْه, the enlightment of religion.

/// SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR-SHIP AND PERMISSIONS Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ is the Khalīfaĥ [Spiritual Successor] of Grand Muftī of Pakistan, Shaykh Muftī Waqār-ud-Dīn رَحْمَةُ اللهِ تَعَالٰی عَلَيْه. The Commentator of Ṣaḥīḥ Bukhārī, Grand Master of Jurisprudence of India ‘Muftī Sharīful-Ḥaq Amjadī رَحْمَةُ اللهِ تَعَالٰی عَلَيْه has also granted Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ with his Khilāfaĥ [Successor-ship] of the four major Spiritual Sufi Orders [Salasil], Qādirīyyaĥ, Chishtīyyaĥ, Naqshbandīyyaĥ, and Suĥarvardīyyaĥ. He also granted him permission of transmission of the books of Ḥadīš, and dissemination of Islamic knowledge etc.

Furthermore, the Khalīfaĥ of Sayyidī Quṭb of Madīnaĥ, Shaykh Faḍlur Raḥmān عَلَیهِ رَحْمَةُ اﷲِ القَوِیْ granted him Khilāfaĥ and authorized him with his permission [Ijāzaĥ] of transmission of the books of Ḥadīš. Furthermore, he has received Khilāfaĥ from other great Shuyūkhs and scholars as well.

/// INITIATING OTHERS AND SPIRITUAL GUIDING Even though he had the permission and Khilāfaĥ to initiate others, out of humility, Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ did not make people his own Murīd [disciples of his own Sūfī Order] for several years. He would instead initiate them into his Shaykh’s order at the time of initiation. It was only after his Shaykh, Quṭb of Madīnaĥ, Ziā-ud-Dīn Madanī’s passing away that he started initiations into his own Spiritual Sufi Order of Qādirīyyaĥ, Razawīyyaĥ, ‘Aṭṭāriyyaĥ, thus making his disciples “’Aṭṭārī .”

Later on, he also began initiations [Baī’at] in large Sunnaĥ-Inspiring congregations; following the footsteps of eminent scholars such as the successor and the son of Imām Aḥmad Razā, Shaykh Muṣṭafā Razā Khān عَلَيْهِ رَحْمَةُ الرَّحْمٰنْ.

/// FOUNDING DAWAT-E-ISLAMI D awat-e-Islāmī is a worldwide, non-political movement of propagating Qurān & Sunnaĥ. In the era of evils, when the tides of decadent ways are rising throughout the world, when mass media is using its resources to spread indecency, when the majority of Muslims continue to adopt immodesty in the name of fashion. In times like these, when the Muslims are eager to gain merely worldly knowledge and are completely heedless of acquiring the knowledge of their noble religion; as these dark clouds of the irreligiousness loom overhead: the enemies of Islam are plotting to slander our fabulous religion; decadence is creeping into our Masjids; atheism and misguidance are in full swing; homes are turning into movie theatres; and Muslims are wasting their precious time in music, movies, alcohol, and gambling.

In these trying times, the Shaykh, The Founder of Dawat-e-Islami the Spiritual Guide, Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat, the Honourable, Shaykh, Abū Bilāl Muḥammad Ilyās ‘Aṭṭār Qādirī Razavī Ziyāeī دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ revived the work of Calling to righteousness. He inspired each and every individual through his personal efforts and gave them an ambition that, as a Muslim, “I must strive to reform myself and the people of the entire world!”

In 1401 A.H., he founded this momentous organization, called Dawat-e-Islami, for the propagation of Qurānic knowledge and Sunnaĥ. By the Grace of Allāĥ عزوجل, by Shaykh’s endless efforts, in a short span, the work of Dawat-e-Islami has reached over 70 countries [at the time of writing] across the globe. Hundreds of thousands of “Devotees of the Rasūl” have devoted themselves to calling to righteousness, [as if they have brought a cool breeze with them to comfort the hearts of the ailing Ummaĥ].

In various countries, many non-Muslims are continuing to embrace the beautiful religion of Islām at the hands of the Muballighs [Preachers] of Dawat-e-Islami. By the diligent efforts of Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat’s دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ, a righteous Madanī revolution has entered into the lives of hundreds of thousands of Muslims, especially the young Muslims, who have become steadfast in performing the Farḍ and Wājib matters in Islam. Furthermore, they crown their heads with green turbans [‘Imāmaĥ] and adorn their faces with beards, in accordance to the Sunnaĥ of Sayyid-ul-Mursalīn, the Prophet of mankind, the peace of our heart and mind, the most generous and kind, our beloved Rasūl صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم. These noble accomplishments of Amīr-e-Aĥl-e-Sunnat دَامَتْ بَرَكَاتُهُمُ الْعَالِيَهْ are evident by the number of areas Dawat-e-Islami is working in. Many of these were direly needed for safeguarding the religion and faiths of the Ummaĥ of the Exalted Prophet صلی اللہ تعالٰی علیہ وسلم.

صلواعلی الحبیب : صلی اللہ تعالٰی علٰی محمد — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.53.116.121 (talk) 15:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2014
In the second paragraph it says about a "Dawat e islami" member killing the governor. I dont think that source is reliable because firstly that would be considered as Hate speech against Mr.Qadri's "group". Secondly, there are videos attached in this forum which clearly show Mr.Qadri stating that he does not support killing of a governor. This clearly shows that the killer of governor was not from "dawat e islami".

http://www.yanabi.com/index.php?/topic/426169-maulana-ilyas-qadri-sahib-on-accusing-others-as-gustak-e-rasool-and-violence/

Bilalsadiq (talk) 22:42, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Please provide reliable sources for your requested edit. In addition, what (specifically) would you like removed?

Founder of DI
At least two sources confirm its founders. Maulana Ilyas was chosen to lead DI, he did not founded himself. . ScholarM (talk) 03:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ilyas Qadri is a living person. His Web site, other scholars, historical evidence, the founder of the Dawat e Islami prove that--Obaid Raza (talk) 04:18, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Many people think that he is founder of DI but neutral and reliable researches proves otherwise, he was selected to lead DI by elder leaders of this movement. Can you give details where and when and in which meeting he founded DI ? ScholarM (talk) 17:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Faizan Hassan Attari
Blocked for 31 hours, let me know if the same problems recur from him or any account/IP. Doug Weller talk 13:19, 23 March 2020 (UTC)