Talk:Immunology

Interspecies differences
I snipped:


 * Additionally vertebrate and mammalian systems show a high degree of differentiation between their immune systems compared to other bodily systems. This can present a problem when trying to extrapolate experimental results from animal models (often from mice to humans).

Can anyone source this? It's too strong a statement to go without a source. jdb &#x274b; 03:46, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Most of this came from Goldsby. Though I think that piece might be one of the things I had gotten somewhere else.
 * What it was trying to convey that the physiology immune system of a mouse and a man shows more difference than say the digestive system. This means using animal models is particularly hard when dealing with immune systems.
 * This is basically expected when you think about the nature of the immune system. Even my immune system compared to your immune system is going to have a lot less compatibility compared to our digestive systems.--ZayZayEM 04:12, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I daresay that while you and I probably differ greatly in our MHC genes and VDJ segments, and we while certainly differ in terms of our instantitated T and B cells, we probably differ very little in terms of the mechanics of the immune system. As to mice, I realize that there are inter-species differences, given how extensively mice are used in immunology research, I'm hesistant to include a paragraph like the one above without more detail, as it gives the wrong impression. jdb &#x274b; 05:44, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I changed "HIV virus" to "HIV", as the V stands for virus.

clinical immunology
Not exactly sure why Clinical immunology was spun off but it's probably a useless fork. Then again, maybe this was done on purpose but I don't think the current length of this article really justifies it. Pascal.Tesson 03:29, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Immunology is the study of the elements of the immune system in mammals (including man), and how they work to produce immune responses. Clinical Immunology is the study of diseases resulting from failure or aberrant actions of the immune system in man - although similar aberrations occur in animals and give rise to the study and practice of Veterinary Immunology(thompsra)

Nonsense?
Aberrant actions in man take place as I have felt,due to shortage of some "CURRENCIES" in males that may be due to excessive ejaculations and that at ages not enough to compensate for the loss of male gamets thereby creating a sort of pressure on stem cells that produce these gamets.

When this happens for a long period or some special chemicals are added into the human body conscience may hit causing following changes: 1.A person may become more emotional.Actually as stem cells are pressured these changes do appear but as the state of mind goes through some sort of rebooting the condition is restored. This occurs most probably when during an activity a lot of enthusiasm is demanded failing to quench this chemical/s is secreted causing limbic systems associated with the act of controlling emotions to be disturbed that immediately distracts the person and may make him feel weak,afraid,nervous. Most probably it's thymus,heart tissue that secrete them. 2.The person may believe or feel the need to believe in religion. This may well be felt if the person was already not religious. 3.The person may go back evolutionarily. I think entropy of brain is an important criteria to estimate this.Inorder to cope up with changes brain restricts its activities that help in evolution and so- something had to be diffrentiated into "good acts"from other. This may well induce the feeling that drive into religious talks,expressions,infuencing,and as a consequence of this(say, the shape of brain becomes like that so that it continues performing that even when the actual cause of chemicals has subsided so that some unrelated with evolutionary benefits some beliefs crop up)end up into conflicts.It encourages nepotism,communalism(community+ism),etc 4.this being heritable results in different "co-ordinates" of different people in the world with different immunity.He survives who went in line with evolution/who went alon where nature wanted him to go by passing the blind process of selection.

Copy vio
The history section added by. Was directly copied from the abstract of the following article [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1733516&dopt=Abstract The birth of immunology. III. The fate of the phagocytosis theory] Cell Immunol. 1992 Feb;139(2):505-30. And was thus promply removed.

ARGH
Does it say anywhere in this article specifically and clearly for the layman whether an immunologist is a medical doctor or a Ph.D.? NO. Imagine the layman who has to find that out and gets instead rerouted to a discussion on the SCIENCE and not the INDIVIDUAL. How unbelievably frustrating!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.144.68.238 (talk) 08:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * An immunologist studies the immune system. You are referring to a professional immunologist. Although it took me a minute, I realised you are referring to the fact that immunologist forwards to this page. This is unfortunately a preliminary article, and could be vastly improved. Once it is better developed, the problem will probably be resolved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.139.24 (talk) 22:28, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * In terms of medical specialties, for adults a specialist in allergies and immune disorders is someone who has completed residency in Internal Medicine and has gone on to do a fellowship in allergy and immunology. The article on internal medicine has a list of subspecialties of internal medicine, but allergy & immunology seems to be missing from it.--BAW (talk) 14:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Cytokine storm
Help please, article cleanup and verification needed. Tim Vickers (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Quote
Perhaps this quote can be added:

What does not kill me, makes me stronger. -Friedrich Nietzsche

The quote refers to fighting of disease and strenghtening a person trough the use of pathogens

Link Needed
link Allergy & Immunology Society of Sri Lanka Many original articles are on this site. Please review and if satisfactory please link to us.--Kasun Seneviratne 11:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkasuns (talk • contribs)
 * Site still under construction ? Couldn't find any articles on site. - Rod57 (talk) 06:18, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Infobox
The reason I keep reverting your changes: --DO11.10 (talk) 21:06, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) This page is about Immunology (a field of study), not just Immunologists (a profession). The infobox about the profession belongs in the section (that I have restored to the appropriate location in the article) where the profession is discussed.
 * 2) Immunologists come in both Ph.D. and M.D. types, you changes (until very recently) have removed an entire subset.
 * 3) Your changes also remove the citations that I tracked down to support the salary information without adding any new citations. Your quote of $227,000 or whatever is meaningless without something to back it up. Besides there is obviously going to be a range of salaries.

Developmental immunity
This section needs to be rewritten by someone with skills both in the subject at hand and the English language. I made a start at rewriting it with focus on the language, but realized that my knowledge of the subject didn't allow for more than fairly non-consequential alterations. --Osquar F (talk) 10:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Help with new article
Please help with D._Bernard_Amos article - it needs experts to make further improvements Standard2211 (talk) 18:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

No mention of Cryoimmunology or cryoimmunotherapy
No mention here or elsewhere in WP of cryoimmunology or cryoimmunotherapy despite : - Rod57 (talk) 07:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Cryo-immunology: a review of the literature and proposed mechanisms for stimulatory versus suppressive immune responses. 2008
 * Cryo-immunology: A review of the literature and proposed mechanisms for stimulatory versus suppressive immune responses. 2009
 * From: Proceedings 10th World Congress of Cryosurgery Focus on cryoimmunology. 1998
 * Investigation of the mechanism and the effect of cryoimmunology in the Copenhagen rat. 2001
 * Cryoimmunology for malignant bone and soft-tissue tumors. refs Ablin 1972
 * Cryoimmunotherapy in urologic oncology. 2009

Yemeserach 2010
This is an opaque reference which is proving quite difficult to place. I would like to know if anyone can indicate the correct source of information. If that has become impossible, then the reference should be replaced with something more current and accessible.

Advertisement masquerading as an article?
Section 9.1 - is the section on the courses/course structure just advertising? Certainly doesn't seem like it should be here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.123.167 (talk) 13:24, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree, it does seem like an Advertisement masquerading as an article. I now tagged the section with the template . --Roberta jr. (talk) 15:28, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

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On Immunology
I moved medicine as leading scope of immunology, especially for that reason:
 * speaking on immunology of organisms sounds we are including immunology of viruses either, I have some supposition that viruses might have some immunology either to the extend that they have basic cell structure that may have some, if basic structural "immunological" or self-protecting mechanisms, but in medicine, not biology, we are interested in immunology of humans and sapient species first, and after it domestic animals, farm animals, etc. So this point is the medical point, I wouldn't say it is the mistake intrinsically in biology as biology has the idea of medical biology that human immunity is placed first. I'd say it is editor's that wrote it (I wouldn't be looking who exactly wrote it) "immunological mistake" to give such definition.
 * also there is a difference of human immunology and comparative immunology in veterinary medicine
 * immunological health and symptoms go in different medical specialties (text arrangement)
 * term and other uses
 * Classical immunology vs. nonclassical: diagnostic and therapeutic
 * and further meaningful organization of theoretical and other subdisciplines of immunology. --Medupdate3 (talk) 08:45, 16 June 2022 (UTC)