Talk:Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition

ITAE family
The Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition family of articles now numbers 30 articles, including 21 biographies of personnel and one cat biography. Details are tabled below.

List started on 14 April 2008 and updated since then. Most recent update: 18:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Consolidated bibliography
The following is a bibliography for all books cited, or listed as further reading, in the ITAE group of articles as listed. It does not include on-line sources.


 * Alexander, Caroline (1998) The Endurance: Shackleton's Legendary Antarctic Expedition Bloomsbury, ISBN 0 7475 4123 X
 * Armstrong, Jennifer (1998). Shipwreck at the Bottom of the World : The Extraordinary True Story of Shackleton and the Endurance Crown Books for Young Readers. ISBN 0-517-80013-6
 * Bickel, Lennard (2000) Shackleton's Forgotten Men: The Untold Tale of an Antarctic Tragedy Pimlico Press  ISBN 0-7126-6807-1
 * Cherry-Garrard, Apsley (1922). The Worst Journey in the World, New York: Carroll & Graf. ISBN 0-7867-0437-3
 * Evans, Edward R.G.R. (1953) South With Scott
 * Fisher, M & J (1957) Shackleton James Barrie Books
 * Fuchs, Sir V & Hillary, Sir E (1958) The Crossing of Antarctica Cassell
 * Huntford, Roland(1985) Shackleton Hodder & Stoughton, ISBN 0 340 25007 0
 * Huntford, Roland(1979) The Last Place on Earth ISBN 0-689-70701-0
 * Huxley, Elspeth (1977) Scott of the Antarctic Weidenfeld and Nicolson, London, ISBN 0 29777433 6
 * Lansing, Alfred (1999) 2nd ed. Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage. Carroll & Graf Publishers. ISBN 0-7867-0621-X
 * McElrea, Richard: Polar Castaways: The Ross Sea Party Of Sir Ernest Shackleton, 1914-17 McGill-Queen's University Press 2004 ISBN 0-7735-2825-3
 * Mills, Lief (1999) Frank Wild Caedmon of Whitby ISBN 0 905355 48 2
 * Morrell, Margot and Capparell, Stephanie (2003) Shackleton's Way. Nicholas Brealey. ISBN 1-85788-318-7.
 * Murphy, David Thomas (2002) German Exploration of the Polar World: a History, 1870–1940 University of Nebraska Press ISBN 0 8032 3205 5.
 * Riffenburgh, Beau(2004) Nimrod Bloomsbury Publications, London  ISBN 0 7475 7253 4
 * Richards, R W(2002) The Ross Sea Shore Party 1914-17 Reprint by The Erskine Press ISBN 1-85297-077-4
 * Scott, Robert Falcon(1905) The Voyage of the Discovery Smith, Elder & Co, London
 * Shackleton, Sir Ernest(1983) South Century Travellers edition, Century Publishing  ISBN 0 7126 0111 2
 * Shackleton, Ernest (1911) Heart of the Antarctic Heinemann, London
 * Smith, Michael (2000). An Unsung Hero: Tom Crean - Antarctic Survivor, London: Headline Book Publishing. ISBN 0-7472-5357-9
 * Smith, Michael (2004). Polar Crusader: Sir James Wordie - Exploring the Arctic and Antarctic: Birlinn. ISBN 1-84158-292-1.
 * Speake, Jennifer (2003). Literature of Travel and Exploration: An Encyclopedia. Taylor & Francis. ISBN 1579584241.
 * Tyler-Lewis, Kelly (2007) The Lost Men Bloomsbury 2007 ISBN 978 0 7475 7972 4
 * Wilson, Edward: (1975) Diary of the Discovery Expedition Blandford Press, London, ISBN 0 7137 0431 4
 * Worsley, Frank A. (1999) Endurance: An Epic of Polar Adventure W.W. Norton & Company, ISBN 0 393 31994 6
 * Worsley, Frank A.(1998) Shackleton's Boat Journey, W.W. Norton & Company
 * Riffenburgh, Beau(2004) Nimrod Bloomsbury Publications, London  ISBN 0 7475 7253 4
 * Richards, R W(2002) The Ross Sea Shore Party 1914-17 Reprint by The Erskine Press ISBN 1-85297-077-4
 * Scott, Robert Falcon(1905) The Voyage of the Discovery Smith, Elder & Co, London
 * Shackleton, Sir Ernest(1983) South Century Travellers edition, Century Publishing  ISBN 0 7126 0111 2
 * Shackleton, Ernest (1911) Heart of the Antarctic Heinemann, London
 * Smith, Michael (2000). An Unsung Hero: Tom Crean - Antarctic Survivor, London: Headline Book Publishing. ISBN 0-7472-5357-9
 * Smith, Michael (2004). Polar Crusader: Sir James Wordie - Exploring the Arctic and Antarctic: Birlinn. ISBN 1-84158-292-1.
 * Speake, Jennifer (2003). Literature of Travel and Exploration: An Encyclopedia. Taylor & Francis. ISBN 1579584241.
 * Tyler-Lewis, Kelly (2007) The Lost Men Bloomsbury 2007 ISBN 978 0 7475 7972 4
 * Wilson, Edward: (1975) Diary of the Discovery Expedition Blandford Press, London, ISBN 0 7137 0431 4
 * Worsley, Frank A. (1999) Endurance: An Epic of Polar Adventure W.W. Norton & Company, ISBN 0 393 31994 6
 * Worsley, Frank A.(1998) Shackleton's Boat Journey, W.W. Norton & Company
 * Wilson, Edward: (1975) Diary of the Discovery Expedition Blandford Press, London, ISBN 0 7137 0431 4
 * Worsley, Frank A. (1999) Endurance: An Epic of Polar Adventure W.W. Norton & Company, ISBN 0 393 31994 6
 * Worsley, Frank A.(1998) Shackleton's Boat Journey, W.W. Norton & Company
 * Worsley, Frank A.(1998) Shackleton's Boat Journey, W.W. Norton & Company

Splendid article
Congratulations to everyone involved in this. It was a real pleasure to see something so informative and well-put together on the main page, instead of the usual rubbish about computer games or sportsmen or pop culture figures. I enjoyed reading it very much and it has spurred me on to find out more about such Antarctic expeditions. Well done all. 86.162.203.2 (talk) 15:22, 28 June 2008 (UTC) Please try to refrain from making a potential villan out of Thomas Orde-Lees. He was obviously correct and his objection to not stockpile fresh meat when it was available. Of cannibalism his comment could have been made in any tounge in cheek fashion. He survived as all those brave men did, is that not whats important here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.50.57 (talk) 04:50, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

News -- Brandy and Whisky Recovered
Not sure where to put this. Perhaps someone more familiar with the articles can place it appropriately. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/8499931.stm Victor Engel (talk) 00:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

World War I
The United Kingdom declared war on Germany on 4 August 1914 and the expedition left Plymouth 4 days later. I know little about conscription in WW1, but was there a reason why the crew weren't recalled for war duty at a later date when conscription was implemented? Was it because they were too hard to contact? Or did the government see national morale boosting value in the continuance of their expedition? Or was conscription not applied to every man of fighting age? 86.133.212.6 (talk) 11:08, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Conscription wasn't implemented in the Empire immediately upon declaring war for the simple reason that no-one knew how long or how serious the fighting would be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.10.189 (talk) 10:13, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Redundancy
The same shortened version of this article is scattered throughout Wikipedia, in every article related to the expedition. Can someone please replace them with Hyperlinks? Thanks. (I would do it myself, but right now don't want to cope with all the vitriol an IP has to suffer to change anything of substance.)91.10.5.43 (talk) 01:05, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Image with map and timeline of the path of the crew added
I added a visualization of the expedition, from Endurance beset to the final rescue. There is a timeline within the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LucaWist (talk • contribs) 17:07, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Image with map and timeline of the path of the crew added
I added a visualization of the expedition, from Endurance beset to the final rescue. There is a timeline within the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LucaWist (talk • contribs) 17:10, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Personnel - Hypothetical "Men Wanted" advertisement
I saw this image of the hypothetical advertisement in an unrelated story on Ars Technica. While it could be a fake, it doesn't have the air of a fake. The URL implies it's something to do with the Smithsonian (magazine), which is a source I would tend to treat as reliable, barring any contra-indications. A question for font experts: Is the font used in the clipping any use in narrowing down candidate newspapers?. Philh-591 (talk) 20:48, 22 November 2022 (UTC)


 * If anyone is in a position to look up a Smithsonian Magazine archive in a library, the URL also implies a date of 9 Oct 2013 or 10 Sept 2013 for an article about Shackleton, depending on whether the hinted at date is in US American order or not. Philh-591 (talk) 20:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry for wasting your time. The Smithsonian Magazine article turns out to be an article scotching the idea that there was an advertisement, with this image as an illustration and notes that exhaustive newspaper archive searches have turned up nothing.  Also I notice that the image uses the American spelling of "honor", which I suppose is a hint that it's not for real.  Philh-591 (talk) 21:09, 22 November 2022 (UTC)