Talk:In-Betweener

this statement
"In the Marvel Comics series "Silver Surfer," Volume 3, Issue 18, it was revealed that the In-Betweener is actually the metaphysical counterpart of Galactus himself....although there is no indication that the universe would cease to exist if the In-Betweener is destroyed, as is the case with Galactus."

I believe the above statement is misleading. This is because while the in-between is  the third entity in the triad between chaos and order; similar to the triad between death, eternity and galactus. It is important to know that it has been stated in (silver surfer volume one? Issue 18 published 1988) that the in-betweener is the opersite of galactus. Also the statements about the comparison between the universe ending is also erroneous. Galactus was present at the beginning of the marvel universe (Him being the  sole survivor of the previous)  while the in-betweener is  a creation of  chaos and order to form stablitiy between the two. --Dr noire 22:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

i think it means the in-betweener is the spiritual concept of balance, while galactuse is the physical concept.


 * I believe that it was I who wrote that sentence, so long ago, and I was in error. There is a more recent addition to the Article, that explicitly (and more correctly) states that the In-Betweener himself is the one who has come to this conclusion, because Galactus is thus far the one force that he cannot summon an "anti-force" or "anti-being" against. This time around, I was very careful to say that the In-Betweener believes this to be the case, and I still believe that the exception was noteworthy enough to add to the Article. Hope that this helps.Thanos777 (talk) 04:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

In-Betweener's equality to Galactus
While they may have "seemed" equal in that particular encounter, it is important to remember that the IB possessed the Soul Gem and Galactus was hungry at the time. This is supported by Galactus' statement to Nova directly after the battle, and the fact he had just nearly died from indigestion caused by the Elders. At no point in the fight did IB ever have the upper hand, this was only the IB's claim after they passed through the Black Hole into the realm of Chaos & Order. As with many of the IB's claims, Galactus didn't appear to agree.

Even with the IB possessing the Soul Gem and Galactus' hunger, their equality was never established as the battle was interrupted. Their equality wasn't established in the story even though it can read that way to some. Opinion simply isn't good enough to make the article, and in this case does not meet Verifiability standards. TheBalance (talk) 22:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm going to second this under the arguement that a comic novice or casual reader may not have the neccessary background to understand the casual reference, and or there is a lack of context to make such a reference relevant. -Sharp962 (talk) 23:40, 11 August 2010 (UTC).
 * Ok, fair enough. Nothing was stated about Galactus being weakened before the battle, and the In-Betweener didn't use the gem to enhance himself (this was before Thanos Quest), whereas the battle itself was taxing enough for Galactus to need to feed, so I'd personally go with what was explicitly shown, but concede that there is enough doubt and irrelevance to the statement to skip it.
 * However, in return I'd like to ask TB to make a similar effort to act consistently to stated viewpoint, and remove the reference to "Spider-Man and the Secret Wars" from Galactus' own entry, as it is of very unclear continuity (contradicts it severely on several points and rendered in the style of the "Marvel Adventures"-line), just like he removed "Galacta: Daughter of Galactus" into the "alternate versions" section on the same grounds and the reference here on arguable validity. I think that it is a reasonable enough approach. Dave (talk) 19:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * So, is the offer of good faith editing acceptable? Dave (talk) 11:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)