Talk:In commendam

Repeal
Contrary to the article, but as indicated at the footnoted link, the Ecclesiastical Commissioners Act 1836 has been repealed (in 2018). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.219.116 (talk) 21:55, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Expansion of the topic
I was going to write on the talk for Commendator about how instead of redirecting here it would be better to turn that into a disambiguation page, but In commendam is foundational for so much historical space beyond Catholic canon law that I thought it would be best to discuss my thoughts here.


 * 1) Commendatory abbot and Commander (order) are both derived from this term. As In commendam would imply, a commendator is the English word for someone entrusted with the administration the assets and finances of Religious order (Catholic) or Military order (religious society), essentially a canon law equivalent to a common law trustee. In the case of the military orders, I get the sense they were often led by commendators since the people in charge may have been Knights instead of Abbots.
 * 2) This brings me to Encomienda - Spanish encomienda (commandery) derives from in commendam. The term was used during the reconquista to designate commanderies granted to the Spanish military orders as new areas were conquered in the expansion of the Iberian Christian kingdoms. This legal principle of religiously affiliated conquerors being entrusted as commendators (encomenderos) of newly conquered lands becomes the legal basis for the initial colonization arrangements in North and South America.
 * 3) Commendatore is the italian cognate, and is related, but primarily refers to the leader of military orders.
 * Also, although currently unsourced, the Italian page for In commendam has a page discussing medieval secular uses for this concept in a commercial setting that are broadly to trustee or fiduciary in a modern context. an english example of this usage is available from the following cite:

Anyway, this is all a very long winded way of saying this page should probably be expanded beyond Canon law, and Commendator should probably be a disambiguation page, or should be discussed on this page explicitly. -Furicorn (talk) 18:09, 16 June 2021 (UTC)