Talk:In the Mouth of Madness

Moved
Moved the bit about the apocalypse trilogy to the top and out of the Plot section, as it has no bearing on the actual plot of the film. If anyone begins a trivia portion of this article, it should probably be re-located there.

Also changed it to being "what is considered Carpenter's 'Apocalypse Trilogy'", as the articles on the other two films indicate that it is an informal or unofficial designation.

Depends what you mean by informal or unofficial. Carpenter himself calls it his Apocalypse trilogy Geoff B 17:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure just "random violence and mass hysteria"?
Are you sure the reports of people mutating was just hysteria? I don't think people leave claw marks and rip steel doors open. --HanzoHattori 11:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Well...maybe not where YOUR from. 115.129.6.163 (talk) 04:20, 27 July 2009 (UTC) Sutter Cane

Sutter Cane
Stephen King ==

Although the current state of thematic discussion is fractured, a great to-do is made about HPL. I find it odd then that no mention is made of the obvious connection(s) between Sutter Cane and Stephen King. D. Brodale 12:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

On the one hand it's a fair point, and King is mentioned by name IIRC at least once "forget king. [Kane] outsells them all" or something like that, and their names do invoke each other. But on the other hand the movie really is overtly lovecraftian. Most likely the obvious connections you see to King also come from HPL as much of King's work is lovecraftian. (Must be something in that New England water) In fairness the movie deals in Lovecraft themes, but has King's character or tries to if that makes sense (it wasn't that good a movie). However, i'm not sure how to put that in as anyting but opinon. Though I do feel King should get a mention. Prehaps you could elaborate on the similarites you feel are obvious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.129.131.94 (talk) 00:20, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

The most obvious thing I've found is that the writers of this article haven't read or do not understand the no original research rule (aka the "no-making-stuff-up-yourself-from-circumstantial-things" rule), infact one of the sources (the only one aside from the review) is entirely original research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 05:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

If you're referring to the footnote I inserted, I did so to verfiy the comment made that the film recites whole passages from Lovecraft's work. This was an uncited claim so I inserted the reference to support it. The section from Lovecraft is a verbatim quote from the HPL story the 'Outsider' and it's obvious the film has pastiched the quote to fit the movie's context. There was no invention or creativity on my part to make that connection, so I don't understand your point.


 * Please sign your posts with four tildes. Four of these, ~, at the end, that is. P.S. Phrases like 'it's obvious' usually means original research. Lots42 (talk) 07:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I strongly object to this comparison. 203.59.35.207 (talk) 10:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC) Sutter Cane

People always seem to say this movie is Lovecraftian, but I have never seen it. People don't go randomly crazy in Lovecraft. The end of the world never happens in Lovecraft. But they do in Stephen King. Lovecraft typically dealt with cosmic horror, beings from beyond. But it's very much like a pastiche of a Stephen King novel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.73.64.143 (talk) 10:25, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

It's not his colleague
The man John Trent talks to in the beginning is not his colleague, it is the boss of the insurance company he works for as a **freelancer**. He first offers him a steady assignment, letting go the freelancer, but Trent declines since he loves to be his own man. I won't edit the page, since I am sure someone will complain about and revert it, so I leave it up to you guys if you want correct articles or not. 84.168.194.31 (talk) 14:36, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

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Question about character names
Why John Trent is referred as Trent in the plot, but Linda Styles is referred as Linda? It's not very consistent, either use first names or last names, but using both can be a bit confusing. HG (talk) 20:41, 1 July 2023 (UTC)