Talk:Incroyables and merveilleuses

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the incroyables was the very first youth movement based in fashion, it is not an article about a band or a group of persons. there is articles about the same kind of movements here in wikipedia like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaroni_%28fashion%29, they were of importance in the directoire style definition. even in the images of the period in fashion there are the mention of the incroyables. And after all i-m just beginnig to put it down it would be quite polite to let me finish before delete me! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscadin
 * You need to rewrite everything in English, and to add some refs. &mdash;Bo L 06:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

added some material from french wiki
the page was on a list of requested translations. That's not quite what I have done since the English page already contained other material, but all of the facts I've added tonight are from the corresponding French wiki page.

I had some problems with the format of links to french pages and will try to readdress these but I think that they work... perhaps someone can help. I have had enough of this topic for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elinruby (talk • contribs) 05:19, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

copyeditor: primary concern is format
I have left Incroyables and Merveilleuses in capitalized italics, but am not sure this is correct. The appellation is similar to Hoosier (in function, not meaning) ie these people are (perhaps mostly self-identified) members of an informal social group. Other issues may arise especially in reference formatting. Please feel free to point them out or fix them, thanks :) Elinruby (talk) 05:40, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Italics are often used to indicate foreign words; in theory "and" should not be italicezed, but in practice it might as well be in the same typestyle as the foreign words preceeding and following it. — Robert Greer (talk) 14:51, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks! Elinruby (talk) 08:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Quality of the French Wiki
The page suggests importing content from the French language page, but that page contains no in-line citations, only a bibliography leading to a few books/encyclopedias. Since Wikipedia articles in other languages are not considered valid sources (if I recall correctly), should we still transfer over the unverified content? TropicalFishes (talk) 22:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


 * There is a template available to indicate that an article contains material translated from another language's Wiki. If such material conatined no supporting references and were the only source for the article on this Wiki. thje latter might be open to challenge, but where the article already contains independent references — preferably "real" books and not just some website or other — there would be no reason not to include the translated material. — Robert Greer (talk) 15:34, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

copy edit
I went through and did some copy edits, can the copy edit sign be removed from the page?CouchSurfer222 (talk) 01:56, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 11 February 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)  NNADI GOOD LUCK  ( Talk &#124; Contribs ) 15:50, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Incroyables and Merveilleuses → Incroyables and merveilleuses – Noun. PPEMES (talk) 12:58, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure. Johnbod (talk) 15:29, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


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"Incroyables and merveilleuses" and "Muscadin"
The differences are not clear to me about the topics of Incroyables and merveilleuses and Muscadin. Are they two diffetent topics or should the two articles be merged? Meridiana solare (talk) 11:13, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You'll notice from the first sentences that the periods are slightly different, with Incroyables and merveilleuses following Muscadins. They are pretty similar in many ways, but best kept apart. Johnbod (talk) 15:40, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, @Johnbod Meridiana solare (talk) 15:41, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Pas du tout! Also the Muscadins were essentially a male thing, where for the I&M women were extremely important. Johnbod (talk) 15:43, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Reference note 2 seems like a tangent and isn't related to the content.
Why did the second footnote speak the rise of romantic horror as a genre in literature? I just wanted to know more about violent head shakes that were a dance move during the bals des victimes. Memeloose (talk) 03:09, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Lead image
Would a different image be better at the top of the article? The Cruikshank one is intended as satire rather than to represent any actual clothing, but it could be something you are shown if you search for "incroyable" with a suitable search engine.

The picture at the top of Incroyables_et_Merveilleuses looks more realistic to me, but I don't know if there's something else which better reflects the fashion. Thoughts, anyone? Aoeuidhtns (talk) 00:10, 26 May 2024 (UTC)