Talk:Indelible Grace

Possible WP:COI from Matthew Smith & Kevin Twit
Two usernames - and  - have edited this article, removing Derek Webb's name from the list of notable artists that have been associated with Indelible Grace, and inserting the name "Matthew Smith", for which there is no corresponding Wikipedia article. Neither username has made any other contributions to Wikipedia. Ἀλήθεια 00:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Similar edits have also been made by IP addresses. Here are two links demonstrating the involvement of Derek Webb in Indelible Grace - and . Ἀλήθεια 23:37, 25 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Assuming that is the Kevin Twit who started Indelible Grace, the most recent edits have continued this pattern. Why does Indelible Grace want so badly to distance itself from Derek Webb? He clearly has been involved. Ἀλήθεια 14:58, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Because Webb has disgraced himself recently. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:27, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, so I understand now why. But does removing this information from Wikipedia make this article fail WP:NPOV and WP:NOTCENSORED? Ἀλήθεια 21:19, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't misunderstand me, I don't think he should be removed from this article. Even if the collective has banished him, that should be mentioned and his earlier work with them should be discussed and included. I do not condone his exclusion here or addition of unsupported material elsewhere. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:43, 28 May 2014 (UTC)